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What's with the blinking LED's of Giulietta?

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11K views 17 replies 7 participants last post by  KrisW  
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#9 ·
I was wondering a similar thing. Obviously an LED on a DC circuit has no intrinsic need to flicker (Unlike Xenon headlights which require AC so have to have an inverter). Searching around the internet doesn't seem to provide any form of conclusive proof, but similar discussions elsewhere suggest that it may just be for dimming effect (this seems to be the favoured technique for dimming LED lightbulbs). So it may be that they flicker when in regular light mode and go to maximum intensity for high intensity brake lighting.

I'm guessing wildly - would be interested if anyone knows conclusively.
 
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#8 ·
There is no AC in a car.
(Any noise from the alternator whould depend on engine speed.)


I can't think of any "scientific" reason an LED supplied with a dc current
would "pulse" or flicker, so it would be interesting to find out.

I'm assuming the effect is intentionally introduced for
a reason...
 
#11 ·
OK well I may be able to help, my business makes LED displays. The benefit of multiplexing or flashing, typically at 60Hz + is that you can get away with using a lower rated power supply and lower rated components to drive the LED. So it reduces the cost. You also help prolong life of the LED by reducing heat buildup. Typically they are only 'on' for 1/8 of the time in our displays.

It is nothing to do with dimming. And LED's don't vary light output - they can only ever output a very specific narrow wavelength of light. Voltage to an LEd must be constant but varying forward current will change light output.

The earlier poster is correct that when filmed this gives a curious flashing / intermittent effect as the camera frame picks up the LED's in the array which aren't on at that exact moment. It is less noticeable in darker environments (longer shutter time). If you feel enthusiastic you can replicate this by spreading the fingers of one hand and waving it up & down rapidly in front of your eyes so you se a series of 'frames' separated by fingers. You will of course appear to be a total lunatic to any onlooker.
 
#18 ·
rhett, the flickering is indeed caused by PWM. To achieve a given level of light output, it's better to fit LEDs with much higher output, and then pulse them, rather than fit LEDs with the desired output and run them continuously. Pulsing allows the diodes time to cool, and so prolongs their working life.

As for how to fix it.. With a good quality video camera, you can remove the effect by choosing a slower shutter speed (and controlling exposure with a tighter aperture or a neutral-density filter over the lens), at the expense of some motion blur. On a phone camera, there's nothing you can do about it generally - I've never seen a phone camera with video shutter speed control (although the best cameras like Nokia's will allow shutter speed control for stills)