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Two Types Of Q2 Diff?!?!

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6.2K views 24 replies 8 participants last post by  GhostyDog  
Looks like Alfa have decided to use the undeniably positive impact that the REAL Q2 Torsen diff had, and "extend the brand, man" to apply to essentially the existing ASR system which has the "lets lock the brakes onto the wheel thats spinning" feature.

Sorry, I mean an electronic differential ..

This seems like spin :lol:

Unfortunately if Alfa ever did something revolutionary like fit proper Q2 diffs to all Alfas, people might then think its probably just a software upgrade since they now have devalued the term Q2 :(

Traction control systems, including single wheel braking of a spinning wheel is nowhere, and I mean nowhere near as efficient as a mechanical limited slip differential.
A real diff would give you a couple of seconds a lap straight away, whereas ASR would cost you time - the car is quicker with it off..

Still useful for the road, and essential as part of a comprehensive ESP system, so I'm not knocking that Alfa do these systems at all.





"The real news here is the new Electronic Q2 system that makes its debut on the 2008 Brera and Spider. Instead of the mechanical Q2 system found on many Alfas, which uses a Torsen limited-slip differential, the Electronic Q2 system uses the brakes to shift torque from one side of the car to the other to help maintain traction. In front-drive models, the system is linked to the front wheels. In all-wheel drive models, its linked to the rear wheels, where, according to Alfa, it has similar benefits to a fitting the car with a central Torsen and self-locking rear differentials. This system is also fitted on the 2008 Alfa Romeo 159 sedan and wagon."

Source Alfa Romeo bringing more models, traction system to Geneva | Europe Blog at Motor Trend
 
Bear in mind that the Q2 diff from Alfa is at an absolute bargain price.
Its a no-brainer if its available for your car.

Remember the Quaife diff is almost functionally identical to the Q2 and is several times that price.

The AD diff is a more race oriented diff, and is suited to more powerful cars and track use.
My view is that the more powerful a FWD car is the more the difference favours a clutch type diff over a Torque sensing diff.
(This is based on testing 6 diff variants in GTAs with a wide spread of power outputs).

RE the price I'm sure you could find a similar diff to Autodelta from other vendors for less (but still several times the Q2 price), but I know Autodelta have done a lot of testing, tuning and refinement for the settings for these diffs for road and track use.
These type of diffs are very customizable, unlike Torsen diffs.


Cheers,
TB






Is it really worth a thousand pounds though without fitting???
 
Actually its only 250 quid or so! :D

ÂŁ470 - ÂŁ500 is the fitted price.


This amazing price is obviously due to the huge economies of scale that Alfa are getting in manufacturing these.

And credit is due to Alfa themselves for making them available in such large numbers to enthusiasts.


And you can always switch it off :D

Still isn't the Q2 about 470 quid? A bargain compared to ADs offering :(