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Replace a lost key £800 please

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#1 ·
The key to my wife's 147 has been lost, we ordered a new key for around £80 and an engineer came to our house to code the new key for us.

He failed and they have now towed the car to the dealership. They are now saying that it will cost £800 to have the new key coded.

Does anyone on the forumn have experience of loosing a key and the costs associated?

The car is a 1.6 lusso 147 MY 2002

They have only spoken to my wife so far and she was a bit vague, but apparently something is "broken" which means the key cannot be coded to the car.

All sounds a bit fishy to me , surely a fáult in the ECU would have shown iteslf with other problems before we lost the key.

Any advice would be welcome, at £800 I'd rather tow the car to the nearest Alfa office and burn it in their car park.
 
#2 ·
On my S reg 156 2.5 AR quoted me I think 35/45, but I didn't go ahead with this because they had really peeed me off trying to get the key (price went up by a few quid each time on 4 seperate enquiries!)

I got an autolocksmith to try (about £60) but the code I had was incorrect so I bought a scrap car of ebay for £10.50, pulled the engine ecu, alarm, immobilser and central locking ecu's with the chip and remote control from the key, transplanted these and they worked, much better than the £1200 AR wanted.
 
#11 ·
This is maybe a little off the topic, I was just told by my dealer that if you are programming new key for your alfa, all keys you want to use need to be present as if not, you cant program them again.

My story: I received 1 normal key and 1 backup key with my alfa. I lost the normal key. I was using backup till I was waiting for the replacement to come. New key arrived; it was programmed to be accepted by my ECU, everything fine. Than I found the lost original key but it didn’t work of course, as it was deleted from the ECU. I thought it was a good idea to have another one spare, so I went back to the dealer, to program it back. He said it is impossible, as the key wasn’t present by the programming before and it is banned forever.

I just want to warn everybody who from some reason want more keys for their alfas, if you program new one, all the others that you want to you use in the future have to be present.
 
#12 ·
I too have had to buy a second key for my 2001 156 - which costed c.£70 for the key and a code card (with a new code on it), and c.£70 for the programming. AS stated above both keys had to be present. I daresay if you did have third key, you could get another code card (c.£10) and then pay to have all three keys reprogrammed - but maybe the ECU will only allow a certain number of reprogrammings, although I don't see why they should restrict that.

Anyway, getting back to the original question - Ascertain just what they think they are going to have to replace for that £800, and then try another quote, but it will probably have to be a main dealer, but with the list of parts you should be able to play one off the other and reduce the price by quite abit. But it does sound like they are quoting for a new ECU - hence the big cost. Bit of a bu99er. Good luck

James
 
#18 ·
a17esh said:
print this forum off and shove it in their face! Alfa dealers in london seem to want to help people a lot more - just a thought maybe they could offer better service! Alfa in lincoln are crap! Hope they actually do go down
AR Lombarda have been helpful to me, AR Wimbledon I will never see again out of principle. I enquired on four times about price of a new key and it went up by about £3-4 each time. Not major difference but still not right:tut:
 
#21 ·
Rob 156 said:
AR Lombarda have been helpful to me, AR Wimbledon I will never see again out of principle. I enquired on four times about price of a new key and it went up by about £3-4 each time. Not major difference but still not right:tut:
Hey, I have just purchased a 166 and Lombarda have recommended that i come down for a once over. How do you rate them. Are fair, honest and reputeable, trustworthy? What has been your experience with them?. Going 18/10 so if you get this beforehand let me know.
Thanks
 
#22 ·
I only ever used them for smaller things, but I thought they were brilliant. I purchased a code card and key from ar wimbledon - they knew i needed to get it coded up, but they told me these were all the codes available / required for my car (immobiliser code was on it, but not the alarm code).

When I popped into lombarda for a £0.50 gasket, they happily told me my alarm code for free. Even when trying to find said gasket on ePer, he treated the enquiry with the same seriousness I would expect as if looking for a brand new engine.

I've rung them up for advise on a few occasions over the phone, which they have happily complied with. They seemed like nice decent people

Wimbledon as I mentioned earlier - to me it seems like they make the prices up as they go along, and I found them to be very unhelpful.
 
#23 ·
I think that's way steep. My Dad said just a few days ago that a key would cost $400 to replace on a 147 (and he's the one ordering them so he should know)

I know that's Australian dollars, but that is the equivelant to around 160 pounds, so I would definitely be getting a second opinion.

My intuition tells me that they are trying to rip you off.