Sounds most likely the MAF's had it, a usual problem with Alfa's, usualy you notice a drop in power to start with then a flat spot, usualy abround 3500-4000rpm, then as it gets worse it will barely rev at all.

 

unplug the maf,the ecu should adjust to the new mixture settings
and it may well run ok util you replace it,worked on my v6 2.5 fine.
The only thing you will notice the yellow engine management light
stays on ,easily reset.

 

thanks guys thats mean i need to get new maf next week.

 

if the orange engine management light is on too ,i is 99% probably the MAF ,Make sure you get a bosch one also cheap copies aren't as reliable.
Had the same prob with my last 166 new maf did the trick

 

There is no light on on the dashboard.
I have just taken my 166 for a ride and it was reving like brand new car with no problem, but probably next time it will be jumping like kangaroo again

 

P3rLuS,

I sufferred these symptoms for a while.Found out if you stop the car and start her again off she goes like the wind.
Mine are
Pomeo is a 2.5V6 pre 2001 (CF3) with the fuel injector symbol.
Lacey is a 3.0 V6 2001 (But built 2000) and pre CF3 but with engine symbol.

They had the same mafs and swapping over swapped the fault so it was the MAF.

All the foregoing is good advice and as Dawsub says go for a genuine Bosch.

P:lol: me:lol:

 

Anybody got a pictures where MAF is fitted in T.Spark version ? cheers; )

 

you can't miss it - just above the filter box...got wires coming out of it

 

Today I took the MAF off and i had reveled other problem

- the rubber which is comming out of the engine to the black box (called Air ducting) is broken in many places. Engine was taking too much air. I have already order the rubber along with the box (part number 60658881) for a cost of 50£. I hope that will slove the problem and there will be no need of new MAF.

Anyway the alfa quote me 140£ for new MAF. The one which i have just now is an Bosh which is dated 09/01 and its number 0280218019. I can buy it of the ebay for 38£ which is orginal BOSCH http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BOSCH-AIR-FLOW-MASS-METER-FIAT-ALFA-145-146-SPIDER_W0QQitemZ160169766250QQihZ006QQcategoryZ10370QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem.

Maybe the MAF which i have already fitted its the wrong one? my car is V-reg 2.0 T.Spark.

So shall i wait for the rubber part or just buy and MAF straight away as well ? I have found other problem in rev-meter somtimes its just sticks at 2000RPM even when the car sits down without any acceleration but it moves while accelerating.

 

Today I took the MAF off and i had reveled other problem
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- the rubber which is comming out of the engine to the black box (called Air ducting) is broken in many places. Engine was taking too much air. I have already order the rubber along with the box (part number 60658881) for a cost of 50£. I hope that will slove the problem and there will be no need of new MAF.

Anyway the alfa quote me 140£ for new MAF. The one which i have just now is an Bosh which is dated 09/01 and its number 0280218019. I can buy it of the ebay for 38£ which is orginal BOSCH http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BOSCH-AIR-FLOW-MASS-METER-FIAT-ALFA-145-146-SPIDER_W0QQitemZ160169766250QQihZ006QQcategoryZ10370QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem.

Maybe the MAF which i have already fitted its the wrong one? my car is V-reg 2.0 T.Spark.

So shall i wait for the rubber part or just buy and MAF straight away as well ? I have found other problem in rev-meter somtimes its just sticks at 2000RPM even when the car sits down without any acceleration but it moves while accelerating.

Well my little aberdonian friend.

To quote Tina Turner it is " SIMPLY THE BEST"

I dont have a twin spark I have 2 V6's .I believe that this fits the twinspark as listed..BUT EXCELLENT NEWS FOR V6 OWNERS Yes it has THE SAME SENSOR JUST A DIFFERENT TUBE.i REALISE THAT ADVERTISING IS FROWNED UPON but A BARGAIN IS A BARGAIN.

V6 OWNERS
DONT GIVE YOURSELF THE GRIEF IN MY POST TO MAF OR NOT TO MAF CORUPTED BY LAPTOP.
DONT CHANGE THE WHOLE TUBE ..JUST CHANGE THE SENSOR.

nOW IV'E STOCKED UP ON SPARES I'LL LET YOU ALL IN FOR A BARGAIN.
a SEARCH WILL REVEAL THEIR GLASGOW PHONE NUMBER PHONE PAUL OR DAVE AND SAY THE GUY THAT LIKES A BARGAIN ADVISED YOU.

a BARGAIN OR WHAT IVE TRIED AND TESTED IT ON POMEO AND SHE IS SO GOOD I JUST TREATED HER TO A SET OF NEW FOX R1 ALLOYSAND ITS NOT EVEN HER BIRTHDAY .HER AND LACEY ARE LIKE THE QUEEN.THEY BOTH HAVE 2 BIRTHDAYS DATE OF REGISTRATION AND DATE OF MANUFACTURE

P:lol: ME:lol:

OH I FORGOT TO MENTION THE DOWN SIDE

INSTEAD OF A 6 POINT TAMPRPROOF TORX SCREW

IT HAS A 5 POINT TAMPERPROOF SCREW...a DEAR SET IS A TENNER OUT OF HALFORDS. BUT THEY WILL COMEIN HANDY IN THE FUTURE WHEN ALL GO THAT WAY.


NB CF3 HAS A DIFFERENT SENSOR I THINK AS DIFFERENT PART NO UNLESS ANYONE KNOWS THE SENSOR NO IN A CF3 MAF.

 

that's the right MAF for a CF2 engine....good price that as well! I'd try the rubbed hose (common problem that!) first but MAF's are a common problem bit and it's probably worth changing it as well.....

 

My items arived today, so i have fited them stright away... and i was shocked! i didnt realized that the rubber hose was in soo bad condition! look at the pictures at attachment:

So i have replaced the hose along with plastic box... and the car drives like a brand new! now problems with reving! so Definitley it was not a MAF !!! i didnt know that some rubber hose can make such a diffrence!

I have order an new BOSCH MAF as well but i wont need it any more so if anyone need one for t.spark engine give me a shout! i will give it away for a bargain price!

 

Wahey! So you are all fixed up now mate yeah?

 

YEP! my 166 turned from jumping kangaroo into a galloping horse )
i have got an MOT booked for monday so hopefully nothing will devalop till then!

 

Glad to hear it then bud, have you got the manual or the automatic transmission?

 

its T.Spark with 5-speed manual gear box, I bought it 2 weeks for a bargain price of 1000£! ( guy forgot to put an reserve on his auction on ebay, as well as not many of you look for an alfa on ebay site?)
Car is in the perfect condition for V-reg, along with full service history and bills from last year for over 1500£ which includes cambelt and suspension change. Im a lucky man!

 

Bloody hell man, that is a great price! I'm always looking for cars on eBay. I have a bid going at the moment on a 1990 Celica GTi-16, hopefully I'll win that because it looks like a laugh. :lol:

Have you got any pictures you can show us of the 166 then bud?

 

Here are some pictures:
http://www.mm.pl/~Perlus/166/
And there is one picture in my gallery as well.
If you see in the picures background - my two red beautiful alfas GTV and 164.

 

Aaargh! Leather too! You hit the jackpot mate, that is one hell of a bargain you got yourself there. Congratulations!!!

 

I couldnt belive in ending price as well as a seller who was swearing on the phone when i told him how much his alfa was sold for, but he had no other choice. The car was in leeds so i took a plane from aberdeen to leeds for 100£ (cheaper then a petrol .

 

I don't blame him for being annoyed :lol:

 

You made the right choice then mate. I know for a fact though that you could advertise that tomorrow on Piston Heads and eBay and get £1500+ for it. Why? Because his pictures are crap.

He shouldn't have taken pictures of the car when it was wet, that always looks dodgey, the pictures aren't exactly great themselves either! In one he has the rear end of another car in the way of the shot! :lol:

I say hang onto it for at least a year or so then try and make some cash on it, that's what I always try to do though :lol:

How quick is the 2.0i Manual variant anyway? As I've only ever really been interested in the 2.5 and 3.0 variants.

 

How quick is the 2.0i Manual variant anyway? As I've only ever really been interested in the 2.5 and 3.0 variants.

I would say its fast enought for town and quite economical as well - 22mpg in busy traffic and 33mpg on highway.

 

that's a sweet deal....good colour as well

 

You would say that!!!

:lol:

 

hehe - indeed

 

It's a very nice colour though. And the price he paid.

 

UPDATE re posts on this thread.

I knew everything was going too good.New maf new alloy wheels a new button on the key and was going for the usual chinese tonight.

Fortunately this time it wasn't the oil cooler pipes as occurred with lacey.Pomeos are still original .
Went to unlock car after using her all day and nothing happened .
I thought it might be the batteries in the key.

NO....On opening the key the wee switch fell out.

AAARGH...Alarm set and car locked .Openning her with the key would set off the alarm.
So i gingerly placed switch in position on open key a,pressed gently and car opened and alarm switched off.

Now use the key to lock and unlock car .BuT put switch in tonight to acivate the alarm and lock her.

Now need to search for chris's post on the switch.

ZF are your ears on....I was the one who mentioned key in the post.

Ans springs in the other one the old OSF spring curse.

At least I have fixed the steering gaitor with a new one even that wasnt simple as the outer diameters of the gaitor in old and new were different so it was a complete strip of the seized lock nut which I was hoping to leave in situ and slide the gaitor over it.

One fault at a time...at least they are all minor niggles.

Pomeo

 

ZF went to bed mate.