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Hi all, I tried buying a Duetto from the US a couple of weeks ago but the seller disappeared on me, probably after accepting another offer.

Anyway I have come across one that is for sale. It is quite expensive but as far as I can tell very original. Two issues thought, it hasn't really been used for at least 6 years since the last person bought it at auction in Europe, and the second is that the papers are in the previous Dutch owner's name, even though the current owner bought it in 2013. The dealer says it is normal for investors to buy cars and not transfer the title into their name. This sounds odd to me - how do you prove the seller owns the car?

Any comments about the condition? Cheers

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Very difficult to tell from photo's, usual flowery words about The Graduate....you need to go and see it and take someone who knows their boat tails or get a proper survey from AA or RAC, Alfa's don't like sitting around so expect problems with seals, brakes, rubber, probably needs new tyres as well, how old is the paint? - never trust new spray jobs.... don't know if its an issue about owners, ask them to sort it out for you if you do want to buy it.
 

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Looks nice, if it has only had 3 owners there should be tell tale signs and a bunch of history, needs to be seen, you could always contact someone in the Dutch Alfa club I guess, they must have a register type person of sorts,
 

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Looks nice, if it has only had 3 owners there should be tell tale signs and a bunch of history, needs to be seen, you could always contact someone in the Dutch Alfa club I guess, they must have a register type person of sorts,
Good shout, I just dropped the Dutch Alfa club person an email - thanks.
 

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Very difficult to tell from photo's, usual flowery words about The Graduate....you need to go and see it and take someone who knows their boat tails or get a proper survey from AA or RAC, Alfa's don't like sitting around so expect problems with seals, brakes, rubber, probably needs new tyres as well, how old is the paint? - never trust new spray jobs.... don't know if its an issue about owners, ask them to sort it out for you if you do want to buy it.
Yeah it's beginning to get a bit old that everyone uses The Graduate to sell this car and that buying a Duetto will get you ladies!

I'm fully expecting that the engine / brakes etc will need some work - but the main concern is the bodywork - which in this case appears good. I'm not sure if the AA/RAC can tell you anything particularly insightful about a classic car except that it needs some maintenance.

My question is whether it is worth paying £5-10K extra for a more original, unrestored car - versus a car that has had more restoration work, perhaps an engine swap, more aftermarket bits etc. Also where we are in the classic car market cycle too...
 

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I would pay for originality but it's up to you, I don't understand why someone would buy it and not transfer the title, for that money I would want it UK registered and MOT'D end of, but that's me,
 

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I would pay for originality but it's up to you, I don't understand why someone would buy it and not transfer the title, for that money I would want it UK registered and MOT'D end of, but that's me,
Yes that was exactly my thinking... however apparently the owner is a collector with 100 plus cars and this is how they do it. Perhaps it adds value to have less owners on the title? Maybe a tax implication? Or insurance? Who knows...

What I was told by another dealer is that if you have the original title deed (not a copy) then you should be able to register with the DVLA.
 

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You have to ask yourself collector or not, if he or she bought the car for around 36k they would want the title in their name or am I missing something, and for 40k I would still want it UK registered if purchased in the UK. See if the Dutch contacts get back to you and if they know the car,
 

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Yeah it's beginning to get a bit old that everyone uses The Graduate to sell this car and that buying a Duetto will get you ladies!

I'm fully expecting that the engine / brakes etc will need some work - but the main concern is the bodywork - which in this case appears good. I'm not sure if the AA/RAC can tell you anything particularly insightful about a classic car except that it needs some maintenance.

My question is whether it is worth paying £5-10K extra for a more original, unrestored car - versus a car that has had more restoration work, perhaps an engine swap, more aftermarket bits etc. Also where we are in the classic car market cycle too...
It depends on what you want, when you say "worth it" do you mean you could you sell it for a profit next year? or do you mean worth it because you would be happier driving an original unmolested car?, personally speaking i would always rather run a car with original patina than one with a shiny new coat of paint, if you don't think the AA survey would add value then there are "specialist" assessors out there as well; at this sort of money you need to know what you are doing when looking it over, of course the premium you pay from a dealer entitles you to a certain amount of protection as the car has to be fit for purpose... but dealers are there to make a profit.....
 

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It depends on what you want, when you say "worth it" do you mean you could you sell it for a profit next year? or do you mean worth it because you would be happier driving an original unmolested car?, personally speaking i would always rather run a car with original patina than one with a shiny new coat of paint, if you don't think the AA survey would add value then there are "specialist" assessors out there as well; at this sort of money you need to know what you are doing when looking it over, of course the premium you pay from a dealer entitles you to a certain amount of protection as the car has to be fit for purpose... but dealers are there to make a profit.....
My plan would be to keep the car for probably 3 years before possibly changing it to another one - but even though this is a hobby I would ideally like to buy an appreciating asset rather than at the wrong point in the cycle or overpay for a car. Yes, I think if I decided it was the right one then I would get a specialist to have a look. Cheers...
 

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My plan would be to keep the car for probably 3 years before possibly changing it to another one - but even though this is a hobby I would ideally like to buy an appreciating asset rather than at the wrong point in the cycle or overpay for a car. Yes, I think if I decided it was the right one then I would get a specialist to have a look. Cheers...
I can assure you, you will end up spending more than you will ever get back, I've had my S2 for six years and never stopped fettling and improving even tho it was fine when I bought it, pleased its worth more than when I got it but I darn't look at the receipts in my history folder, wouldn't have it any other way tho, good luck.
 

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1969 Alfa Romeo JUNIOR SPIDER 1300

Hello,

Regretfully I will be selling my Alfa Junior after 50 years of ownership. Having approx. 37,000 miles on it of which 80% have been only show car use. It is a very original red over black , covered headlight version that has won many , many auto shows . Please contact me 610.691.2133 direct EST USA or e-mail (preferred).

No one will ever find a better Alfa than this car!

Thanks, G
 
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