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Hello chums I'm after some honest advice I own a 99 165 V6 manual which I've just
bought in the past week for £200 I took it for an MOT and it failed on a couple of holes
on both inner wings which I've had welded so including the MOT work the car owes me
£425 with a years ticket.


My question is this I have managed to trace the owners from new bar the past 6 months
in my folder I have £12K receipts from the original owner main dealer only servicing new
box and clutch at 100K approx new starter at 115K approx ect ect.. Do I replace the belt
water pump, plus plugs which are due cost wise around the £750 mark or not? the reason
I ask the question is while calling a few specialists one asked me the same question either
spend the money or accept that when the belt snaps the car is scrap. Should have said
near the beginning the car has 150k on the clock but I think is in very good condition
considering the mileage, Black leather , Wooden wheel, air con which works? ect.



Any help or guidance would be gratefully received I welcome all view points:thumbs:





Best Colin.
 
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to buy the timing belt kit & water pump doesn't cost £750, more like £250 from the right place. Another £150 should cover labour. either that or drive it into the ground & get half your money back when the belt does break.
 

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Okay pal let me know where you get the belt, pump &
Plugs supplied and fitted for that price and I'll go there?
But on a serious note what would you do?



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a v6 costs quite a bit to have belt changed, i'd drive it till it broke, then if the cars still in good cond buy another engine and put new belts on before you install it.
you never know, it might last another 50k
 

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I have to say pal your a lot
Cleverer than me, I've never
done one and wouldn't try it
as a first try;)



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Oh lordy lordy!! £200 pound car? what to do? juicy v6 engine expensive to run!!star trek enterprise intergalactic mileage? hope you have deep pockets just in case, all the best but sounds like a bit of a gamble to me? Red or black? its a tough one this!!:)
 

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No. Go for a 2nd hand engine it just buy another cheapy if it dies. Pikey Prestige only works as method of car purchase if you are prepared to scrap it. Even better if you can strip a few bits and make a couple of quid first. I ran an S plate BMW 528 for 11 months last year, bought for 1200, sold with blown head gasket for 500. Got to mooch around in a big, comfy car for a year, at the equivalent of 66 quid a month. Happy days! There are loads of big old cars nobody wantts for no money around, don't waste 4 times the cost of purchase on the 165 tbh
 

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Bangernomics says run it as is, you'll probably be fine for a year......if not just scrap it / Ebay it and buy another. V6s don't break as often as twinnies, and I've been running them for the last ten years or more and haven't changed a belt on one of mine yet - only one blow up:lol:
 

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Why not just try a replacement belt with no ancilleries?


Not a bad idea pal, I'm only saying the belt, pump because I don't no if its the old type?
And I've been told that's the time to do it likewise the plugs. Again I don't know but its
what everyone says:confused:





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Join the AA and run it on. Put the belt money towards the next car. The cars always going to be worth at least a hundred quid even if the valves and pistons become one !!
 

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Bangernomics says run it as is
Unfortunately they are in that territory now.

I was speaking to a friend last week and they had a client with a 2.4JTD he'd just purchased for £200 and was shocked to find out the aux tensioner he needed was almost as much as the whole car...!

(£193 list price for a 2.4 aux tensioner...)
 
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Not a bad idea pal, I'm only saying the belt, pump because I don't no if its the old type?
And I've been told that's the time to do it likewise the plugs. Again I don't know but its
what everyone says:confused:

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To do the belt only change takes 6 hours or more, replacing the pump is approx 1 hour more work [ could be less if things so your way ] replacing idlers & tensioners is 15 min's extra work. plugs can be replaced as part of the timing belt replacement as you'll be needing to remove engine covers to gain access to the cams that allow access to the plugs. 5 min's extra work.

so my point is that gaining access & re-fitting the covers to doing the belt is 70% of the total time, removing & fitting the belt is another 10%, water pump, idlers, tensioners & pump is 20%.
 

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How bads the rot besides what you've had welded? No point doing the belt if it is going to be rotten again in 11 months time. Thats the deciding factor basically, that and how long you want to keep it. If you want to keep it a few years and its not a complete rotter then do the belt, but only do it properly with the tensioner, 2 x idlers & waterpump.

Or drive it until it gives up and then put a 3 litre in it :D
 

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Thanks for all your replies and views,
Food for thought over Christmas and
a good look underneath in January,
And go from there I guess!!



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