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Didn't see a thread for this - apologies if I missed it?

I used to LOVE going to the RAC rally - went every year from '90 to 2000. When they stuck it down in one corner of Wales I fell out of love with it as a spectator sport but still watched.

As the electronics started to take over I watched less and less, to the point where I really don't care if I miss it. A sorry state of affairs :cry:

BUT, I've seen a glimpse of the new 2011 regs (can't seem to find a proper run-down). Looks VERY promising indeed.

Anyone else a fan? Any thoughts on the upcoming season? Will Loeb still be the guy to beat in cars that will require a different style of driving? Or will Solberg see a resurgence to build on some of his 2010 performances? How will Raikonnen get on in his second full season...
 

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aw bum :( I presume ESPN is a pay channel on Sky? I use their F1 Live website a lot but didn't realise they were on the telly too....

btw did you clock the Walter Rorhl vid on that page? Legend!! :D
 

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You can get ESPN via a few things but it's an extra subscription on top of them, I believe it's £12 a month to add to Sky or £9 a month if you already have Sky Sports.

No Rohrl vid for me, it comes up with Blomqvist, Mikkola and Vatanen.
 

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Bugger. Looks like I'll have to follow it on the web then. Yeah that guy on Dave (Neil Cole or something like?) could get annoying.

Daz, must be random links then. I got Rohrl both times I went there so didnt realise. Still the others are all legends too. Just need a Toivonen clip for the set :)

Fingers crossed these new cars put some excitement back into it too.........
 

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It looks like Motors TV are still doing their hour-long summary of each day. You need Sky buy at least it's not Sky plus ESPN.

Interesting quote from David Richards of Prodrive - "It's very clear that Volkswagen are about to announce their return to the World Rally Championship as well - and under the Volkswagen brand rather than Skoda."
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It'll be interesting to see how the rally car first, Mini second (rather than converting a road car) design approach works out for Prodrive.

On the subject of old rallying videos I was quite impressed by this the other day. Not a terribly exciting car but certainly exciting driving.
 

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I used to love rallying, the concentration and bravery needed to do it exceeds f1 by far imo, unfortunately it's not a great sport to watch on TV. The highlights on dave seem to focus mainly on the crashes to make it interesting, and the onboard shots don't look that exciting either because the cars are so planted
 

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Taking up Mongoose's point, when I USED to love rallying the cars needed serious input from the driver. The group B monsters were essentially trying to kill them (and succeeded at times), the group A cars were entertaining both for the drivers and the spectators. But the more recent WRC efforts with active diffs, flappy paddle / push pull gears etc have sucked the entertainment right out of it. Loeb is still a superb driver but it's just so DULL to watch! The 3 day format with repeated and reversed stages is a joke too - it's virtually circuit racing but i do understand the cost drivers behind it all....

Try and find the clip on youtube of Walter Rohrl driving an S1 Quattro to see what I mean - there's a camera pointing at the pedals as well and he's "dancing" on them to keep the thing pointing the right way. Or look up the 1986 Monte Carlo Rally story...or the 1989 RAC...

I KNOW technology is important and there's relevance for our road cars but I'm so pleased that the cars have been "dumbed down" for 2011. I'm just praying that it translates to more exciting viewing......
 

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Good to hear it'll still be on Dave :thumbs:
Unless something has changed in the past few days it's not on Dave. It's on ESPN (subscription) and Motors TV (Sky).
Dave dropped it and no one other than ESPN wanted to pick it up - though that may be money related as they were rumoured to be talking to Five and the BBC.
 
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Espn is an extra channel, even if you have the full sky deal, you have to pay more for it. :tut:

Good to see it will be on motors tv, though I imagine production values will go even lower than they did when dave took it on.

I used to watch it religiously when it was on c4. Then dave took it and turned it into some kind of talk show with the occasional rally footage and I havent watched it with interest since.

Fingers crossed this will be an improvement.
 

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I used to watch it religiously when it was on c4. Then dave took it and turned it into some kind of talk show with the occasional rally footage and I havent watched it with interest since.
I hated it when it was on C4 at two in the morning. It was ridiculous.

Dave last year was good, they'd dropped all the silly celeb garbage and were just doing coverage. Though I preferred watching it on Motors TV as they had an hour for every day instead of an hour for the whole event.
 

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Unless something has changed in the past few days it's not on Dave. It's on ESPN (subscription) and Motors TV (Sky).
Don't know why I said Dave :headbang: :lol: I meant Motors TV :eek:
 

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Ford is getting off bad iwith their withdrawal for the Lapland Rally. They were to test the Fiesta WRC there for a final time as part of preparations to the WRC, but Latvala crashed the car which was to participate :rolleyes:
 

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They've said they'll still complete the Sweden testing so it shouldn't be too much of a problem. Citroen aren't doing an event until WRC Sweden either.
 
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