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I am not sure how familiar is this in the UK, but in the last few year a joint venture between FIAT and Zastava (Yugo) in Serbia has been under (re)construction.

First, Zastava made a rebadged version of Punto Mk2, called the Zastava 10 and now they are producing it under the Punto Classic badge, as meanwhile The Goverment of Serbia and FIAT reached an agreement on joint venture company called FIAT Automobili Srbija, which is legal successor to Zastava.

Anyway, these days lots of speculation, based on the Marchione and Boris Tadić (president of Serbia) statements, were in the air regarding which new models will be manufactured in Zastava. Besides the obviuos and most probably Grande Punto and a family car like Dacia Logan, also it is very plausable that a new Chrysler 200C could come from Serbia for european market, to save costs.

Although noone has speculated this, IMO it could be possible to see some Alfas being cost effectively produced in Serbia. And this fact kind of concerns me - not because of the quality, lets say the level remains the same, but because it would become far more common on these roads here and I really would not like to see that (I dont need it becoming like a Skoda or VW here - being produced in Sarajevo). Actually, I chose my 147 over 156, just because its more rare to see on the road. So, hypothetically, how would you feel if at some point Alfa being produced in UK emerged as an option?
 

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So, hypothetically, how would you feel if at some point Alfa being produced in UK emerged as an option?
I wouldn't have a problem.

My previous two cars were MG ZTs and they were bomb proof both on build quality and reliability.

Running costs weren't any more than my 159 either and you could get parts fairly easily (even after MG Rover went pop!) which is more than can be said for some Alfa parts :D
 

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I wouldn't have a problem.

My previous two cars were MG ZTs and they were bomb proof both on build quality and reliability.

Running costs weren't any more than my 159 either and you could get parts fairly easily (even after MG Rover went pop!) which is more than can be said for some Alfa parts :D
I think you missed my point... Of course it would be easier to get parts and easier to maintain, cheaper to buy... But would Alfa lose some of its exotic distinctivness, as you would be able to see a lot of them on the road. i dont think I would be delighted to see one on the road as much as I am now.
 

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My concerns would be the same as yours! The UK car manufacturing industry is dead! The British are superb at bespoke cars/ engineering but! mass market production is/was awful:( Rover was a prime example, the cars fell to bits. I would however buy an Alfa Romeo made in Germany!:wow:

I'll grab my coat before the Alfisti arrange too have me executed! :tut:
 

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Nothing wrong with British Manufacturing ... I can't see Alfa making a new factory in the UK unless there was huge tax breaks ... Elsmere Port where the make the Astra is one of the best GM has
 

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The UK car manufacturing industry is dead! The British are superb at bespoke cars/ engineering but! mass market production is/was awful:(Rover was a prime example, the cars fell to bits.
Not strictly true.

Aren't you forgetting that Honda, Toyota, Vauxhall, Ford(?) and Nissan still build mass produced cars here in the UK?

Like I say my MG ZTs were as well built (if not better built) than anything else I've owned (including german cars).

It's all down to perceptions and lots of people still think Alfas are unreliable.

I agree that I like the exclusivity of Alfa Romeos though :thumbs:

The problem is that the motor industry is a global business and it is inevitable that Alfa's Italian roots may be lost some time in the future.
 

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Absolutely not.

Cheers to All
Peter
 

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After owning a few Rovers I would say not.

I loved my TVR though.

I don't think we do mass produced cars very well TBH
 
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I think you missed my point... Of course it would be easier to get parts and easier to maintain, cheaper to buy... But would Alfa lose some of its exotic distinctivness, as you would be able to see a lot of them on the road. i dont think I would be delighted to see one on the road as much as I am now.
As long as it went bust after about a year!!! The sad thing is that those last Rover MG's were fantastic cars!!! Not as good as any Alfa but bloody close!!!
 

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Sorry Seasider! The UK no longer has any manufacturing, Thatcher saw to that. Personally, i will never have a vauxhall.
Well obviously I must be day dreaming a lot at work when I go to visit various car plants and car parts suppliers around the UK ... and I can't believe you made that comment when your county city has a large factory making a very successful car, unfortunately it's German and puts shame on the marvel that it was designed to look like
 

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The car manufacturing industry in the country has a reputation a bit like Alfa.
Rubbish reliability for anything built in the 70's and 80's and still suffers for it now even though that is firmly consigned to history. Because that's all people remember.
 
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I think we sometimes let the rover debacle cloud our judgement on how crap the British car industry is. As has been pointed out Vauxhall, Nissan and Honda all build cars here and some of them are quite good. Ford still have factories here but, largely due to globalisation, they don't build cars any more, just bits of them.

I always thought of my British-built Primera as a Japanese car and I'd think the same of a British-built Alfa.
 

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. I would however buy an Alfa Romeo made in Germany!:wow:
I would not, ever

they would design the problems away, and also design the fun out of it too

some Lambo Gallardos were built in Germany to ensure they were made correctly before letting the Italians loose on building them, Audi/Lmabo will not say which ones they were as no one wants to buy a Lambo that is really an Audi, they want the real thing.
 

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Alfa Romeos have been built outside Italy before, so I'd have no problem buying one built elsewhere.
 

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The car manufacturing industry in the country has a reputation a bit like Alfa.
Rubbish reliability for anything built in the 70's and 80's and still suffers for it now even though that is firmly consigned to history. Because that's all people remember.
Totally agree :thumbs::thumbs:
 
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The Original Poster was more concerned about exclusivity than anything else, but that is the Alfa conundrum isn't it. If you want Alfa to survive at all they have to sell more cars, so the OP's requirements are mutually exclusive, unless you want Alfa to become a low volume producer of specialist cars, which most of us could not afford to buy or run. You could always have an Alfa poster on your wall.

My personal misgiving about buying anything built in that part of the world has more to do with events in 1995 and the murder of thousands of innocent people.

Alfalincs
 

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My personal misgiving about buying anything built in that part of the world has more to do with events in 1995 and the murder of thousands of innocent people.

Alfalincs

I would leave it at that, please consider that you are touching way too sensitive subject if you havent ever been in this region and ever went through something similar to civil war.
 

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I'm a bit :confused: by all the negativity towards UK auto manufacturing.

I the UK we have GM Europe's most effeicient plant

We have Europe's most efficient plant full stop at Nissan in Sunderland.

We have two of Toyota and Honda's largest plants in Europe.

We build Bentleys Astons, Land Rovers, Jaguars and Rollers which are admired all over the world.

And yet we're rubbish at manufacturing cars apparently :confused:
unfortunately the new Aston is built in Austria...and the engines for the Landies come from BMW apparently ( u need to fill me in on that one)...and the parts for Rolls are only put together in the UK having been pre-fabbed in Germany too......

i find it somewhat depressing that the highest end of the UK car industry has, in truth, been farmed out....forgive me if im wrong, but that's the impression I, and, I feel many others have of the situation...

as for a UK made Alfa...no thanks....
let it be made in Italy to preserve the heritage of a good car and allow the continued employment of those involved in building it in the first place...
 
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