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Ive had my 1.9 jtd GT for a couple of months and it has 69k on the clock. The cambelt was changed less than 10k ago but not the water pump. I keep seeing on this forum that both should be changed together. Is there a fault with all water pumps and im guessing that if it fails my cambelt does too. Will the pump just suddenly fail or will i get notice of impending doom?
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You might get any of the following symptoms for a short time before it fails, if it starts to:

1) solid pink residue of evaporated coolant around the waterpump area (remove belt covers to have a look)
2) Burning smell from the engine bay as the pump starts to seize and rubs through the belt
3) Burn marks on the belt covers as the pump bearing fails and allows the pulley to tilt downwards, allowing the belt to start rubbing through the plastic belt casing
4) Overheating, as the waterpump is seized and is no longer pumping water.

You might not get any symptoms though, it may just fail, or it may be fine.

I would just get it done to be honest, seen too many broken ones to risk it myself. Saying that the repair is only around £800, provided the rocker arm bearings don't split and drop the bits into the engine (rare). But changing the timing belt, tensioner, idler & waterpump is not an expensive job, we charge £350 inc vat for doing the job, thats peace of mind for another 4 years.
 
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Thanks for the pointers to look for. The big question is, is it worth changing just in case or wait and see how it goes??? Decisions decisions.....
 
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Thanks for the advice and quote, if i lived closer id take you up on the offer but unfortunately i live in Leeds and we appear to be short on Alfa specialists in this part of the world :-(
 

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Water pump failure

Get it done without delay.

Currently facing a new engine from water pump failure. Destroyed cam belt, rocker arms broken, mechanic seems to have lacked competence and a needle bearing has got into the no 3 cylinder. He ran it (despite it rattling like a transit) and it has wrecked piston, head and scored the bore.
If anyone thinks it is not the mechanics fault let me know because i'm going after the garage. I can't see a way in to the cylinder apart from through the injector hole? Which he removed...
 

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Get it done without delay.

Currently facing a new engine from water pump failure. Destroyed cam belt, rocker arms broken, mechanic seems to have lacked competence and a needle bearing has got into the no 3 cylinder. He ran it (despite it rattling like a transit) and it has wrecked piston, head and scored the bore.
If anyone thinks it is not the mechanics fault let me know because i'm going after the garage. I can't see a way in to the cylinder apart from through the injector hole? Which he removed...
Its easily done, but only if you don't take enough care. We've fixed loads of these engines and in a few cases they've had split bearings, you MUST make sure you count out every single little needle bearing before starting the car.
 

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This shouldn't even be a hard decision. Get it done. The JTD is a great engine except for this weak point. Why even risk it?
 
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Its booked in to my local garage for sorting, hes not a Alfa specialist but he repairs all my cars without complaint and has owned a couple of 156's in the past so i have every faith in him :))
 
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Wow good timing, had my water pump changed and i was told that my old one had just started leaking and was starting to seize up, he gave me it to look at and the thing was really hard to spin so i reckon it would not have been long before it seized totally and caused me a right headache, Thanks for the advice guys :)
 
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phew.... good decision to get it done
Your not wrong mate, the missus said it would be money down the drain when i booked it in and that i was being "too cautious" but it would seem that she can be wrong.... sometimes :p
 
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perfect result, haven't spent money you didn't need to and proved the mrs wrong all in one go :lol:

sometimes being cautious and sensible pays off, well done :thumbs:
 
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