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Hi guys,

about 2 weeks I posted about my Alfa 159 not starting on the second day of purchase and the dealer basically wiping his hands of it.

So i sent him a letter of action or whatever before I take him to small claims court.

Now he sent a letter back with nothing but LIES! saying how i inspected the car and engine fully and saw it was in perfect order. that he told me the cambelt needs replacing ASAP, (he said I have 6000 miles left)

Heres the best bit, this should get the funniest joke award on Edinburgh Comedy Festival- he wants me to return the car in 10 days or he is going to charge me £25 per day for "hire" of the vehicle. :thinking: never heard of THAT rule before.

i have spoken to CAB and told them the situation. I then had to go back to CAB and inform them that the guy is now selling my old car that I traded in with ALOT of false advertising, hopefully that should get trading standards involved. I dont even care about the money now its more to do with him being a rogue trader. I have a copy of the advertisement before some poor old soul buys the car and it gets taken off. Hopefully if I can prove in court the lies hes telling about my old car then that will help with my case.


after getting the EGR replaced, I took the car to Gonella Brothers in Catford after reading their good reviews on this website and they have written out a list of jobs to make the car road worthy which will easily come to £1400. seems like MOT certificates might have been faked since half the things listed should have been an MOT fail.
 

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Regardless of everything else...

Why, if you have given him money, does he try to charge you £25 per day? On what basis? Have you paid for the car?
 

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I think hes just trying scare tactics, he even mentioned that hes been in court before and that the other person lost and didn't gain anything. Again a scare tactic.
 

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Well, unless he has a contract that explicitly states that he can charge you rental, then this claim is unlikely to go forward. Last time I checked, that is not how buying a product works. :lol:

Seems to be just a standard small trader who sells a suite of higher-mileage, cheap cars. But has been trading for 15 years according to Companies House. I can't imagine this being a common issue, given he has been in business for so long?

Odd that some of the cars come with a 6-month warranty, and some do not. Standard RAC deal thrown in as part of the sale of some cars?
 

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I get the impression that this trader is simply out of his depth.
It seems he's made a business out of selling old bangers for little money.
And now he's somehow got hold of an Alfa without realising what complex and expensive machines they are to maintain and keep roadworthy.
It sounds like he's just tried to move it on as quickly as he could to get a few quid in the coffers.
 

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Well, unless he has a contract that explicitly states that he can charge you rental, then this claim is unlikely to go forward. Last time I checked, that is not how buying a product works. :lol:

Seems to be just a standard small trader who sells a suite of higher-mileage, cheap cars. But has been trading for 15 years according to Companies House. I can't imagine this being a common issue, given he has been in business for so long?

Odd that some of the cars come with a 6-month warranty, and some do not. Standard RAC deal thrown in as part of the sale of some cars?
This car came with a 6 month warranty with an external company, but they are just as useless as he is.
 

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The warranty probably won't cover the cost of an EGR replacement.

Many warranties don't seem to cover anything that is attached to the car, like the engine or parts parts. :lol:

The problem with some of these companies, is that they trade in small-volume sales, so there is little chance they can afford to fix serious problems like the EGR or DPF if they are needed. It's amazing that such issues can easily drive some businesses into administration.

But I do not like to pre-judge here. But I agree that once someone sees the cost of these parts, even from specialists, they can start wincing.
 

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Ah, the fabulous Gonnella brothers!
It's been a while.
What? Are you telling us Welcome to Gonnella Brothers - Alfa Romeo & Fiat Specialists in London since 1979 are connected with this back-street old-banger dealer?
It seems completely implausible?

No, theyre not connected with the guy in any way.

I took my car to them after having the EGR replaced so I could see what the other issue was since the car was struggling to start and would only start after around 4/5 tries.

They were highly rated on the alfaowner site is what I originally meant.
 

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No, theyre not connected with the guy in any way.

I took my car to them after having the EGR replaced so I could see what the other issue was since the car was struggling to start and would only start after around 4/5 tries.

They were highly rated on the alfaowner site is what I originally meant.
That makes sense.

If only others would use the 'quote' function their posts might also make sense...
 

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Why would da'brothers list a massive bill to fix a car sold by anybody linked with them? They'd say itsafine.
But in return for listing the required work they're hoping to get the job. The fact that they couldn't diagnose the problem with my Lancia some years ago after billing me for an incorrect diagnosis means I wouldn't trust them again. Many people on feedback sites would agree.
 

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