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hi, just got my " new", 2001 alfa 1.6 veloce, home. and when parked up i heard weird noise, like dry bearing or somthing similar - could it be a water pupm. and she sounds like a diesel a bit - that iv red might be a variator, but the\noise doesnt go away after few mins. and something else - i can hear potholes very well, suspension is ok, but as just i go over a pothohe there is bang bang on all wheels. could be that bushes has gone, havent had a chance to have a look under car to see whats wrong. and by the way bought of ebay, no service history at all. what sugestions alfa lovers? were i need to start?
 

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Is the bearing noise possibly alternator bearing or auxilary drive belt tensioner?
Suspension could be drop links, connecting anti roll bars to suspension.
 

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the engine noise could be variator or hydrolic lifters, simply using the wrong kind of oil can cause the lifters to be noisy, no service history? get the cambelt changed asap.. seriously

i bought my 1st alfa, a 156 ts with no service history (also of ebay), the previous owner assured me that the cambelt had been done, as well as a full bottom end rebuild, a few thousand miles later i had a well and truly dead engine due to cambelt faliure

do not risk leaving the cambelt to chance, it will cost you arund £400 to get the cambelt, variator, tensioners etc changed all at once or over £1000 for a recon engine when the cambelt goes

they need to be done every 36k otherwise you risk a very expensive bill, dont make the mistake i did, if there is no recipit for a cambelt assume it hasent been done
 

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will have to take the aux belt off and start up at weekend to see if thats the problem ( i hope), otherwise all my mates will laugh at me, cause i bought an alfa. and will have to check the anti roll bar bushes, cos that noise is a bit anoying, dont have it on my honda prelude 1995 with 160 000 miles on clock.
 

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im thinking about cambelt change, just need to find out if i need to change water pump too. cos its next to cambelt
 

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probably a good idea to change at the same time as, the cost to replace the water pump will be the same as the cost to replace the cambelt if you need to do it in 6 months time, it will save you time and money if you get it done at the same time

also it will give you the peace of mind that the job has been done and you dont need to worry about it failing anytime soon :)
 

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Waterpumps aren't a known issue on the twin spark. But you could change it if you wanted, no harm in it.. :)
 

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sounds like variator if its making a noise like a diesel, they do have alternator bearing problems also. be carefull though as they do have problems with the water pumps, sometimes being the cause of cambelt failure.My advise is you cant be too carefull with a t spark so get it checked out asap if you are near us feel free to give us a call.
 

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While you are doing the belts, I'd do the pump even on a TS. They are that expensive when you consider if it does fail, it's another belt job. I had mine changed with my last belt and it was in a pretty bad state. Leaking and the bearing was pretty shot, but it had done 120K+.
 

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what do you recon ppl? should i buy all the stuff ( cambelt tensioners water pump variator) myself or let garage sort it out? what would be cheaper?
 

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I would get an alfa specialist to do this - done properly it transforms the engine. I had my 2nd belt change done at 125,000kms and did the water pump too, let's call it "preventive" maintenance. The car is actually better now than when they did the first belt at 75k...same alfa garage but different mechanics!!
 

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Yeah i would, but alfa spec will cost, and i've got pretty tight budget. :) and thats not what you need when you buy alfa.
 

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On a 1.6 the cambelt, tensioner, guide, water pump, and variator will cost you £340 inc fitting and vat, with a full service its £440.
 
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new belts for you mister, mines going in for the same thing tomorrow/later boooo
 

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On a 1.6 the cambelt, tensioner, guide, water pump, and variator will cost you £340 inc fitting and vat, with a full service its £440.
That sounds sweet. but you are one hour away from me. dont really want to drive that far. in case she dies on a way to garage ( on m1 :) )
 

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On a 1.6 the cambelt, tensioner, guide, water pump, and variator will cost you £340 inc fitting and vat, with a full service its £440.
That sounds sweet. but you are one hour away from me. dont really want to drive that far. in case she dies on a way to garage ( on m1 :) ) And how long will it take to do all that?
 

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took aux belt off, took cambelt cover off, had a sneaky eye on cambelt - looks good ( dont really know how a bad cambelt looks like). that means cambelt has been replaced recently ( i hope). but variator wasnt changed, thats why she sounds like diesel. if anyone could tell me how a bad cambelt or a cambelt that should be replaced soon looks like. no service history, dont want to change belt if i dont hav to. went to local garage and said i need to change cambelt and then i mentioned alfa 156, theyr faces went white. they said noone would touch alfas- they are too complicated, but he said his boss used to work in alfas garage, so he knows a lot about alfas. they will give quote me on monday. hopefully less than mortgage :)
If i can get her going.
 

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Cambelt failure is normally down to a failure in the tensioner, not just wear and tear on the belt. So a good cambelt, or even a new cambelt WILL fail if the tensioner is no good, or not replaced in a belt change..

I wouldn't take my car to the local garage to get the belts done as they won't have the cam locking tools to ensure the timing is correct. Take it to an Alfa specialist :)
 

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well, the chap at garage said that they hav camlock tools, that they cost about a grand. not that i care, but i might be lucky. and aswell i cant take the car far, cause she doesnt start.
 

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Camlocks aren't a grand, they're £40 :lol:
 
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