[Trifffclarke]

Choices, choices. I've not got a spare £15k, but if I did:
A basketcase Montreal
http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C712454

Or a top-notch GTV6 (3.0):
http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C713192

Of course without another £15k++ the Montreal would be an insane choice, but it's a Montreal!

 

[Norseman50]

+1 for the Montreal

Personally I'd roll with the Monty. Yeah, it would be a lot of work to get her roadworthy, but the end value would be buckets more than the GTV6 would ever be, and I find the "hunting for parts" and "hobby/restoration" time to be extremely rewarding.

 

[spiderserie4]

lets save a monty.....I agree, but...dig deep!

15+k restoration fund will get you nowhere on that particular monty restoration job....plan on 30-40k+ on top of the 15 cost. (and take months to years finding odd rare missing parts)
Then you have an engineless car......guy knows where a monty engine is, but if that is not running or seized add another 10-15k for that.
you cannot rebuild a monty engine for 2-3k. That is the cost of the spica pump!

as for the GTV6, if that is as good as it looks it is a bargain...
"which over the last 3 years has had in excess of £30,000 lavished upon her by a fastidious owner"........he/she took the loss..that makes it is your gain!....(though there is mention of rust bubbles, so maybe the 30k wasn't spent with the right people!.if the welding to inner wings wasn't done invisibly then leave it)
If that was lhd and a different colour....

 

[HaydnW]

I'd take the GTV6 personally...but only because my old man has owned a Montreal for several years now, whereas neither of us have had a GTV6 (but we're both keen on them!)

Montreals are great but that one will provide more than a few headaches, not least of which is the lack of an engine.

 

[harryf]

Yes, from those two it'd be the GTV6 for me too. The Monty is a money pit and will cost much, much more to get right while not returning all of that in value. All the little bits will be difficult to find and the excitement of finding the only passenger seat chrome clip in the world from a guy in Guatemala on ebay will pale with the knowledge that you've another 1636 unobtainable items to source.

If you're going Monty, pay 2 or 3 times as much and get a decent one to start, there'll be plenty of stuff to keep you entertained keeping that going. And you'll be reasonably safe in the knowledge that it'll return most, if not all and possibly more than you have put into it.

Also, I suspect the GTV6 is a better drive.

 

[RobMsport]

Money no object --- the Montreal without doubt . Whatever you spend the value will match it long term. Less money , the GTV6 will move up in value very long term plus it's tidy right now.

 

[Top Down]

Ignore me if you want, am I allowed to say neither?

£15K will buy a nice 105 Berty that will be quite usable, but still needing fettling to get it 95%. It will also be an easy fix with lots of parts easily obtainable.

 

[Joe90GT]

Ignore me if you want, am I allowed to say neither?

£15K will buy a nice 105 Berty that will be quite usable, but still needing fettling to get it 95%. It will also be an easy fix with lots of parts easily obtainable.

I'm afraid the Montreal has never really appealed to me, I like the GTV but would prefer a Sprint for sheer fun but a Giulia Ti would my preferred choice unless someone happened to offer me a Disco Volante (old or new) for a couple of quid............, anyone?

 

[swallow]

I'm afraid the Montreal has never really appealed to me, I like the GTV but would prefer a Sprint for sheer fun but a Giulia Ti would my preferred choice unless someone happened to offer me a Disco Volante (old or new) for a couple of quid............, anyone?

You can have mine if you like for a fiver..
(Matchbox)

 

[kandlbarrett]

It just isn't a fair comparison.

The GTV is an on the road £15k car.

The Montreal is an on the road £50k - £80k car.

For the price of the Montreal you can have the GTV, a 105 and a Maserati with between £5k and £30k still in the bank.

Regards the GTV that has been maintained by Alex Jupe so it should be stunning with everything spot on. Alex is a true 116 specialist.

 

[duemila]

For 15k I dont want any rust spots. But I'm just fussy

 

[CorporalSparrow]

For 15k I dont want any rust spots. But I'm just fussy

I think the days when a mint Alex Jupe GTV6 could be had for £15,000 are over.

The GTV6 is colossally under-rated and it makes no sense to me that they're valued so far behind a 528i/535i.

There are several models across the historic Alfa range with room for a value correction upwards. The GTV6 is unquestionably one of them, the 75 is another, whereas the Montreal seems to have hit its ceiling for the time being.

And when the GTV6's do start heading upwards it'll be Alex's cars and the SA homologated cars leading the charge.

 

[harryf]

I think the days when a mint Alex Jupe GTV6 could be had for £15,000 are over.

The GTV6 is colossally under-rated and it makes no sense to me that they're valued so far behind a 528i/535i.

There are several models across the historic Alfa range with room for a value correction upwards. The GTV6 is unquestionably one of them, the 75 is another, whereas the Montreal seems to have hit its ceiling for the time being.

And when the GTV6's do start heading upwards it'll be Alex's cars and the SA homologated cars leading the charge.

Watching Alex at a Goodwood trackday in his 75 both catching and hustling a nearly new M5 has further opened my eyes to the V6 capabilities. And it sounded properly gorgeous.

 

[duemila]

I know Alex, and his work I've given him enough money, value is the same old conversation, what someone is willing to pay,

 

[Joe90GT]

You can have mine if you like for a fiver..
(Matchbox)

Appreciate the offer but not really what I had in mind............

 

[Top Down]

The GTV6 is colossally under-rated and it makes no sense to me that they're valued so far behind a 528i/535i.

I was surprised to see that posted, so took a look on the classic car ads, now I'm even more confused, even a tatty GTV6 is more than a half decent 5 series.

 

[CorporalSparrow]

I was surprised to see that posted, so took a look on the classic car ads, now I'm even more confused, even a tatty GTV6 is more than a half decent 5 series.

I've been looking at things like this:

Used 1985 BMW Alpina for sale in Tamworth | Pistonheads

Yes it's a good one. But what would the very best GTV6 SA 3.0, a car part-developed by Autodelta, fetch? £30K?

 

[coetzeeh]

Montreal is on by bucket list provided I win the lotto - but having funded one or two Alfa resto's in the past I'd steer clear of this one. Buy a good running Monty and save yourself a lot of money and frustration.

The GTV6 3.0 you could buy, drive now, and if you changed your mind, sell it and not lose much in the process. The PO appears to have invested a fortune and is taking the hit.

 

[duemila]

Well this guy will shake up the discussion, don't like the fog lights, but I always wonder why go to that bother just to sell it Probably the best Alfetta GTV in the UK For Sale (1983) on Car And Classic UK [C707833]

 

[alfanano]

Astonishing (I mean the price- good luck!)