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whats the difference between engine 2.0T 200PS and engine 280PS?

hi, does anybody know the answer?
I asked my local dealer and the answer was "its just software issue.... all the hardware is the same (turbo etc.)"....

thank you!

(sorry for messing "PS" and "CV" in the subject of the thread.... just mean "horses" :)
 

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whats the difference between engine 2.0T 200PS and engine 280PS?

hi, does anybody know the answer?
I asked my local dealer and the answer was "its just software issue.... all the hardware is the same (turbo etc.)"....

thank you!

(sorry for messing "PS" and "CV" in the subject of the thread.... just mean "horses" :)
280hp Engine is a lot more expensive.

Other than that, they grew in the same amniotic bag and shared the same placenta, so they are identical twins, but one is Baby Two Hundred Harrods Smith, and the other one is Baby Two Hundred and Eighty Harrods Smith. :banana:
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Nowadays the difference is usually entirely software. Jaguar and BMW do the same.
 

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In continental EU, the 280hp version is only available as veloce, which also mean other hardware parts: breaks, Q4, seats, ...
 

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Think of teh 200BHP as a detunes 280.
 

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whats the difference between engine 2.0T 200PS and engine 280PS?

hi, does anybody know the answer?
I asked my local dealer and the answer was "its just software issue.... all the hardware is the same (turbo etc.)"....

thank you!

(sorry for messing "PS" and "CV" in the subject of the thread.... just mean "horses" :)[/QUOTE

yes the engine hardware is the same the turbo, injectors everything is the same its just the software, we are going to be offering the 280 bhp software as an upgrade for 200hhp customers along with our stage 2 remap also. :)
 

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You're all sure its the same engine internals like pistons, camshaft etc?
It definitely isnt in bimmers like 316/318/320


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this is a multiair engine which means it does not have an inlet camshaft and the multiair unit is the same for all the 2.0 petrols, the exhaust camshaft is the same for all models and so is the pistons and crankshaft etc,
also the injectors, turbo are the same part number too,
njs have been alfa specialists for almost for over 20+ years we do our research :)
 

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this is a multiair engine which means it does not have an inlet camshaft and the multiair unit is the same for all the 2.0 petrols, the exhaust camshaft is the same for all models and so is the pistons and crankshaft etc,
also the injectors, turbo are the same part number too,
njs have been alfa specialists for almost for over 20+ years we do our research :)
They are the same now but that is about to change

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This is part of an email I got last week

"The first 2.0 t 200bhp are coming through built to 280 spec. Currently on your engine the egr, intake lambda probe and heat exchanger for the heating function on the intercooler are present but not used by the eco, they are mapped out. Also the pistons are weight classified, again only a thing that will be on the 280 version. So the only difference on your engine is purely a map! They will be changing the 200bhp in due course when the new plant is up and running!"

Don't ask me why :banghead::banghead:

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So if that's right the current 200s could be mapped to 280, as its the same engine, but new 200s (from this "new plant") will be physically different to the current 200/280 engine and presumably not mapable (is that a word?) to 280? Wonder why they want to do that?
 

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So if that's right the current 200s could be mapped to 280, as its the same engine, but new 200s (from this "new plant") will be physically different to the current 200/280 engine and presumably not mapable (is that a word?) to 280? Wonder why they want to do that?
I could come up with a fairly good reason .....:p
 

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I could come up with a fairly good reason .....:p
Assuming the good reason is to stop people mapping the 200 to 280 and making the Veloce a bit of a red herring then that may mean that the Autolusso R&D re-map and exhaust mods would only apply to a limited set of 200s (although any other mods would probably still be viable). That would be a bummer.
 

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well, it appears the engine is over engineered for 200hp, so they can probably reduce the buildcost significantly by making it more fit for the required power
in addition, it would make the difference between the 200 and 280 more value for money, or making the 280 more special
 

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So if that's right the current 200s could be mapped to 280, as its the same engine, but new 200s (from this "new plant") will be physically different to the current 200/280 engine and presumably not mapable (is that a word?) to 280? Wonder why they want to do that?
For Alfa 2.0 GME there is already assembly in Termoli. Also V6 is assembled there. I presume that it's not completely run in.

The other GME factory will be in Trenton, Michigan. Production will start this year for all new Wrangler and Cherokee facelift.
 
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