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just wondered what tools I need - done a search but couldn't see a write up.

Any hints or tips, likely issues?

Gonna have a go myself but nervous I may get stuck without a tool I need or some difficulty I ain't thought of.

Did a belt on my 200sx a few years back but RWD meant loads of room to work and timing arrangement meant no special tools just align marks and use timing light an adjust cam sensor position.

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Really? I though there were alignment marks on jtdm 20v and you can't lock crank anyway so what will locking the cam without locking the other achive?
 
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Right had advice from someone who knows Alfa and works on them for a living.

He said 20v\16v are easy. no need for camlocks as long as I make sure at TDC and advised maing my own marks once at tdc as a lot easier to align with new belt than factory markings.

It was AforAlfa who works in Aylesbury as Alfa specialist who gave advice (sure he is known on here) jut so you know where I got info before telling me it's rubbish lol.

Anyway any other heads ups\tips\tools required would be great.
 
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its rubbish advise, but hey its your car..... he should re-name himself "T for Tippex King"
 
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its rubbish advise, but hey its your car..... he should re-name himself "T for Tippex King"
Ok..... funny how alfaworkshops guide is the same. Sure someone on here will be along to vouch for quality of work you get from AforAlfa. He is not a cowboy but a high quality Alfa specialist who is very very well respected in Alfa circles.

In fact I am intrigued if I pop new belt on in exactly same place as old one why is it going to be a problem?.
 

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In fact I am intrigued if I pop new belt on in exactly same place as old one why is it going to be a problem?.
As with the tipex method on anything, you are making the massive assumption that your cams are set correctly before you start.
 
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As with the tipex method on anything, you are making the massive assumption that your cams are set correctly before you start.
Yeah but doesn't the mjet also have physical markings as well? If these line up on old belt then make your own markings is just to make it easier to align as they are closer to each other. if the physical markings don't line up you know it's out.

Add that to the white lines in belt which align to marks on cam and crank means correct number of teeth between marks.

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How will you set crank to TDC without any markings? Which cylinder will be set at TDC? Just curious as to how you intend doing it.
 
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afaik there are no markings
Had a scout about and cam wheel and block defo has physical alignment marks then you align crank with line on belt so still can't see how it can be done wrong without locks.

No way to get belt wrong way round as the marks would be too far apart.
 
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How will you set crank to TDC without any markings? Which cylinder will be set at TDC? Just curious as to how you intend doing it.
Align cam wheel with TDC mark on engine before belt comes off.

Founds same said on here before and in fiat forum now.
 
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What about the crank? :confused:
Aligns with markings on belt surely. Locking cam isn't going to help align crank either though???

Surely theory is I could lock all the wheels I want but if I am just aligning marks on cogs with marks on belt then I am going to end up with exactly the same timing as everyone else regardless of any other variables???. It's not like a TS where you locked cams to adjust the cogs.
 

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Aforalfa has spent a small fortune on locking tools, which is fine for a workshop where they are used, but for a person who is capable of doing his own car, which runs perfectly, and who is looking to save cash and learn about his car, sensible advice is to copy what's there.
 

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Aligns with markings on belt surely. Locking cam isn't going to help align crank either though???
But surely at this point the belt is still slack. What happens when you tension the belt. Would it be possible for the crank or cam pulley to move slightly?
 
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