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Hi Guys/Ladies

I know this is my first post but I like to go directly to the point.

I want to buy a Alfa 156. I was thinking 1.8L or 2.0L
I am looking for a 2000-2001 model or there abouts for around 1k. Am I dreaming with that price or not? I seen some on autotrader for less then that including some that look quite neet. Yet all of the one's I see from that year are around 100000k. Is that a lot for Alfa?
On many sites I have seen models that have for example: 1.8 Lusso which I assume is a packaga name. I have a Ducati Monster so I do know that italian bikes/cars are not that perfect in build quality and am ready for it.


What are the popular packages?
I think 1.6 is a bit small for that car but am I correct or is it just the man thing more is better?
What are the things I should watch out for (noises, used up parts)?
What is the service interval (one you recommend rather then what Alfa recommends as I seen *****'s is way off)?
What are the prices for service?
What is fuel consumption, I assume not that great but still would like to know?
Finally what are the main problems that hunt you?

Thx. Lukas
 

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i have the 1.8 and the fuel economy in my opinion is not that bad, the office figures are an average of around 30-33mpg, although you will proabably get slightly less than that, check the cambelt has been changed at least every 36,000 miles or 3 years. take it for a good test drive listen for any squeaks or knocking that could indicate worn suspension parts, and if it rattles slightly (diesel sound) on start up then it means the variator is worn which will need to be replaced at some point (i was quoted £86 whilst being done with a cambelt change) service intervals are pretty much same as any other car 10,000-12,000 or once a year, with the twin sparks engines though it's important to check your oil levels regularly most people recommend every other tank of fuel as they are designed to use a small amount of oil, which is normal for these cars, the only other thing i can think of is they seem quite prone to the thermostats failing too so check the car gets up to temperature properly whislt driving (cheap to replace though around £35 so not a huge problem even if it failed all these things though not major problems could get you a bit knocked off though), other than that test it, buy it and then you will enjoy it fantastic cars to drive and i love mine
 

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also a lot of people reccomend the 1.8 ove the 2.0 i've never driven the 2.0l but from what i've read on the the general concensus seems to be the 1.8's are more free reving and fun to drive, plus i believe the performance differance between the 2 to be very small and doesn't really justify the increased insurance costs, but at the end of the day it falls down to personal preference, i find my 1.8 to be more than powerful enough faster than my 2.0l Focus was.
 

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Having owned a 1.8 and had 2.0s as courtesy cars, I would definitely choose the 1.8. It is much more free revving and requires to be driven! The fuel consumption is pretty much the same, and I would say that my 1.8 actually felt faster than the 2.0s I drove. The 10bhp difference is negligible in my opinion.

Knocking from the front is generally wishbones, most likely the top set, no more than £100 for parts. Diesel sound on start up - variator - this needs to be changed whilst the cambelt is off and will cost around £90 on top of the cambelt service. The cambelt needs to be changed no later than every 36,000 miles and within 3 years. The 2.0 has a balance belt which needs to be changed at the same time adding extra cost over the 1.8's cambelt service, as the 1.8 doesn't require the balance belt.
From experience, if the car has done over 100,000 miles, it is ideal to change the waterpump too whilst changing the cambelt.

If there is lack of a recent change, and it is over 100,000 miles, my recommendation would be to have the cambelt, variator and water pump changed, to ensure a long life. This would cost around £360 for the 1.8 and £420 for the 2.0. Make sure this is done by an Alfa specialist, as it requires special tools and know-how. Tippex marks and timing gauges are not the way to do it!


Oil needs to be checked once a week. The Twin Spark engines can be quite heavy on oil, 1L per 1000 miles is quite normal.

Provided this is adhered to, Alfas are generally reliable cars. I won't be having anything else for a long time!

During the time of owning both of my 156s, I have also been in ownership of 2 Audis, an A4 and an A6. I have had to have more repairs to the Audis than Alfas.

Good luck in your search, and yes, £1000 will find you a fairly decent Twin Spark 156. :thumbs:
 

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i have got a 2 litre which is suprisingly quick when i was looking was told to make sure it had service histrory as they are quite high maintance (at least mine is) suspension seems to be a weak point am still replacing mine. They also seem to drink oil which seems to be normall. On the plus side you wont buy a more fun car for the money. Just be carefull and dont get carried away.
 

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fun, comfy and in my 6 years of driving the nicest car to drive i've had, and i've had a lot including, Ford,Citroen, Chrysler,Renault and none of them even come close to the driving pleasure i get from my 156
 

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I have the 1.8 VELOCE (2001) 76500 Miles. Recaro seats, absolutely superb. Try to take an Alfa owner along with you to test drive, EXPERIECE can save you a lot of money. It is worth paying a few bob more for a car with fsh & lower miles. If you can get a bit of warranty; thats a bonus. You will get plenty of help on here, all genuine lads.probably a few ladies as well. TOP CARS!!
 

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Thx all.

Does help with buying the car.

Now I just noticed that insurance is a joke. 1.6,1.8 or 2.0 from 2001 no matter which one they all are around 2.2k

Is that a joke? I mean insurance is twice the value of the car?!
 

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Thx all.

Does help with buying the car.

Now I just noticed that insurance is a joke. 1.6,1.8 or 2.0 from 2001 no matter which one they all are around 2.2k

Is that a joke? I mean insurance is twice the value of the car?!
That's really more down to you as the insured, than the car.

If you're young, you're going to be stung :(

Edit: Have a look in here: http://www.alfaowner.com/Forum/alfa-romeo-insurance/
 

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Thx all.

Does help with buying the car.

Now I just noticed that insurance is a joke. 1.6,1.8 or 2.0 from 2001 no matter which one they all are around 2.2k

Is that a joke? I mean insurance is twice the value of the car?!
they all have high insurance groups though im affraid,so if your young, its gona hurt a bit, without no claims etc:(
 

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I am 28 so over the young limit. I get smaller premium for 1L sports bike FFS and that is on the top of all insurance groups.
I have 0 NCB as I never had a car in my life. Been driving a lot on rented one's from work or my dads car back at home (not in UK) and done big mileage with no incidents but never had a car.

Oh yes best thing is I put a value of a car at 1k. I got TP of 1600 TPFT of 924 and Fully comp of 1400. How does that work then?
 

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I am 28 so over the young limit. I get smaller premium for 1L sports bike FFS and that is on the top of all insurance groups.
I have 0 NCB as I never had a car in my life. Been driving a lot on rented one's from work or my dads car back at home (not in UK) and done big mileage with no incidents but never had a car.

Oh yes best thing is I put a value of a car at 1k. I got TP of 1600 TPFT of 924 and Fully comp of 1400. How does that work then?
i didnt know how old you were, you never said.

im 27, 2 yrs no claims (reduced from 4yrs), recent claim and 3 points, and pay 1200 fully comp.

its the repair cost , stealability, crime rate risk in the area, etc that puts insurance up, not just engine size:(

no claims really makes a difference;)

keep shopping around, there will be one thats cheap:thumbs:
 
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Just for comparison ive been driving a year 1 years NCB im 31 and live in Christchurch, Dorset my car is on a driveway & fully comp & valued @ £3600 my premium is £460 this year, however i'm gonna be moving to Richmond in a month or 2 and they want £1800 from me....
 

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Well my accident was on a motorcycle. Funny how NCB is not transferable from car to motorcycle and back but accidents are.
 

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Just for comparison ive been driving a year 1 years NCB im 31 and live in Christchurch, Dorset my car is on a driveway & fully comp & valued @ £3600 my premium is £460 this year, however i'm gonna be moving to Richmond in a month or 2 and they want £1800 from me....
thats it, area plays a BIG part, if not THE biggest part. my area is high risk, my mum, 3 miles down the road from me, without an M postcode, isnt:mad::rant: and pays about half what she did when she lived here:rant:
 

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You can see why so many young people drive with no insurance, Im 48 live in London , 10 years NCB FC £350 ,I had to knock the voluntary excess up to £500 to get it that low:rant:
Yep that is the case. What also ****** me off is lack of clear rules. No one knows how they come up with quotes they do.

What I did notice during my last off was that if you declare value of your vehicle higher (due to mods) then book value it will not mean a thing. They will still value it by the book as most insurance companies will not replace the extra bits.
If you however undervalue it then suddenly that is the price they use.

Another thing if you are one of those that have mods declared and do nto have insurance like for like (most of us do not) then what happens to your parts if your vehicle is a write off?
They do not belong to insurance company as they did not want ot insure it.
What happens to your expensive radio, expensive exhaust or alloy wheels.
They take it!!!

Oh well back to bargain hunt.

It does not look good as I will not brake my rule I used for years. Do not pay more for insurance then vehicle is worth. Do not like to be rear ended.
 

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i was insured in a works vehicle for 4 yrs no accident claims and when i got quotes they where sky high and i had 10 yrs claim free insurance on my bike ! some insurers and i found one that gave me full no claims because of driving works car/van claim free for 4 yrs ,cant remember who gave it me ill look in my old documents and post it for you :cool:
 
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