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Having purchased an 11 plate MA and also being in a newer one fairly recently if I was to have my time purchasing again I would go with the newer model.

not really due to the mileage but the newer models are built slightly better in my opinion,think it was around 2014 they mildly face lifted them. The main bit for me is the sound proofing was improved, 11 plate there seems to be very little so it can be quite noisy on certain road surfaces.
Not sure if there’s much noticeable difference between 150 and 170 hp engines?

reliability wise it’s not been any worse than any other car really it’s had the usual tailgate wiring repairs, resolved in facelift cars with design change.
BCM replaced under warranty due to the wiring issue taking it out. That would have been £500 in parts and then programming if I had to pay.
Drivers engine mount £100,under warranty garage in Birmingham posted replacement to me.
External temp sensor 50 pence
Usual service/ wear and tear items brake pads,tyres,belts,filters and fluids Again no different to any other car.
I also sorted the common dash rattle for early cars last year which required me removing it,not a major issue just an annoyance to me with it creaking. £10
Rear suspension bushes needed doing along with shocks wasn’t the end of the world. £300 odd in parts
Not massive amount I have had to pay for the parts but I do my own work so the Labour element is saved,plus majority done over lockdown while I have had plenty of working from home time on my hands and essentially getting paid to do it.

having said all that my only regret really is I didn’t go with the 1.75 tbi.
 

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Not sure if there’s much noticeable difference between 150 and 170 hp engines?
This might be worth a thread of its own. My suspicion is that the 150 is the 170 remapped to cut off the power peak, to aid consumption and emissions. The quoted torque is the same for both. If I'm right (which my wife says is unusual), then you'll only notice a difference on the rare occasion when you can absolutely rag it at illegal speeds.

As far as the topic is concerned (!), I'd agree it's best to go for youth not low mileage.

For me, a big factor is to have a full service history, with itemised invoices from an Alfa dealer or specialist. I bought my first Giulietta with only a regularly stamped service book. After purchase I Googled the "garage" to find no trace on the web. I suspect it was a local service-in-your-drive bloke ignorant of the crucial Multiair-specific oil filter.
 

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The 150 was a lot easier to get off the line without having to slip the clutch on a hill.
 

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This might be worth a thread of its own. My suspicion is that the 150 is the 170 remapped to cut off the power peak, to aid consumption and emissions. The quoted torque is the same for both. If I'm right (which my wife says is unusual), then you'll only notice a difference on the rare occasion when you can absolutely rag it at illegal speeds.

As far as the topic is concerned (!), I'd agree it's best to go for youth not low mileage.

For me, a big factor is to have a full service history, with itemised invoices from an Alfa dealer or specialist. I bought my first Giulietta with only a regularly stamped service book. After purchase I Googled the "garage" to find no trace on the web. I suspect it was a local service-in-your-drive bloke ignorant of the crucial Multiair-specific oil filter.
the multi air filter isn’t part of the service schedule,dealers won’t change that unless you specifically request it.
The likes of autolusso will either replace it or speak to the customer and advise it not just follow the service schedule like dealers
 

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Whenever I asked I was told it was unnecessary to change the filter. The torque needs to be right and cleaning it out might suffice. A nice looking item!
 

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I think a clean would suffice so long as the o ring is replaced. As for the torque I use liquid thread sealant and nip up so it’s flush with the head.
 

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Thank you all for your insights, my mind is made up on the newer car now!

One further question - should I be afraid of a TCT model, reliability wise?
 

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The TCT seems reliable, but if it does fail it is likely to cost more to fix.

Have a drive in both before you decide, some like the TCT as it is easy to get along with, others find it lessens driver involvement.
 

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The TCT seems reliable, but if it does fail it is likely to cost more to fix.

Have a drive in both before you decide, some like the TCT as it is easy to get along with, others find it lessens driver involvement.
That's a good point, I quite like a gear stick, and when I've driven supercars on experience days, I've found them mixed (Aston was awful, Ferrari was nice, Porsche average)
 

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That's a good point, I quite like a gear stick, and when I've driven supercars on experience days, I've found them mixed (Aston was awful, Ferrari was nice, Porsche average)
I was impressed by the TCT when I drove a Mito with it. The Mito was mixed though...
 

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I haven't had a TCT but have had a DCT BMW and driven a DSG VW. The Golf wasn't great, the BMW was good but it just wasn't for me.

I prefer either a manual or a proper auto, especially the ZF 8 speed,
 

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the multi air filter isn’t part of the service schedule,dealers won’t change that unless you specifically request it.
The likes of autolusso will either replace it or speak to the customer and advise it not just follow the service schedule like dealers
Mine was not replaced or cleaned for 78k (km) I was getting a lot of warning lights and the dealer told me change the battery , this worked for a short time 2 months or so and around 500 km , I took the filter out and found it was around 50% blocked which surely cant be ok? I cleaned it and so far all fine , I really think it should be a service item considering in RSA the service interval with mine is 30k (km) , I changed oil every 15k but it still clocked up so If I just welt with the dealer recommended intervals perhaps I may have had to replace the MA unit , but I did start a thread on this so not that relevant here
 

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This might be worth a thread of its own. My suspicion is that the 150 is the 170 remapped to cut off the power peak, to aid consumption and emissions. The quoted torque is the same for both. If I'm right (which my wife says is unusual), then you'll only notice a difference on the rare occasion when you can absolutely rag it at illegal speeds.

As far as the topic is concerned (!), I'd agree it's best to go for youth not low mileage.

For me, a big factor is to have a full service history, with itemised invoices from an Alfa dealer or specialist. I bought my first Giulietta with only a regularly stamped service book. After purchase I Googled the "garage" to find no trace on the web. I suspect it was a local service-in-your-drive bloke ignorant of the crucial Multiair-specific oil filter.
That is correct, the 150hp MA is a downtuned 170.
 
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