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Handbook in the 159 seems to suggest it is a good idea to turn off the ASR (Anti Slip Regulation) in snow.

I'm too chicken to experiment with it. (Car was very prone to skidding in the recent snow, though the ABS did a great job in pulling it back on track.)

So what do you think? Has anybody tried turning the ASR off in snow (and lived to tell the tale) and how did it handle?
 

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I leave traction control off generally in the snow/ice. Too unpredictable when it kicks in. Thats when it's obvious your on ice, otherwise i'd leave it on if there is only a possibility of ice, when you see the traction control kick in it acts a warning.
 

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Turn it of if you are stuck trying to start on a hill.

If you have any momentum keep it on. The trick in snow is the use the torque. Use the clutch to get going and then slowly apply your right foot (if at all).

So may MX5's anb BMW's had difficulty due to their rear wheel drive, ASR. ESP and drivers inability to drive!!!

Have fun.

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None of those fancy doodads on my 156, but I drove a company beemer :)wow: ) for a while & detested the car trying to outguess me
 
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Handbook in the 159 seems to suggest it is a good idea to turn off the ASR (Anti Slip Regulation) in snow.

I'm too chicken to experiment with it. (Car was very prone to skidding in the recent snow, though the ABS did a great job in pulling it back on track.)

So what do you think? Has anybody tried turning the ASR off in snow (and lived to tell the tale) and how did it handle?
Turning the ASR off shouldn't turn the ABS off should it? The ASR governs the traction control and anti-spin braking system and was hilarious fun with it turned off, getting used to slow speed 4-wheel slides round roundabouts - still not a patch on my old MkII Escort for fun though.

After the snow I thought a skid pan test should be mandatory on all driving tests so people know what to do when it all goes wrong. The look of panic on the middle aged woman as she span a 270 past the Spar in her Fiesta was priceless.

Turned mine off yesterday. Bit of a kicker coming into our road and the car just wouldn't do it, I got shown up by a woman in a Ford Ka, half the weight, skinny tyres, she ploughed straight on up the hill. I sat and broke traction time and time again, turned the traction control off to try and spin my way thought the snow and get some grip on the tarmac below. Just about to leave the car down on the main road and a bunch of hoodies turned up and gave me a push up the hill. So those blasted neighbourhood 'oodies do have their uses after all!
 
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Always left it on for the 147. (After a few "tests" in a
Ski resort carpark showed it made more progress
with ASR left on.)


Haven't driven the Brera in Snow.
 

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I found it best to leave tracon off in snow on my RWD Jag. It wouldn't move otherwise:lol:
Doesn't seem to matter in 4x4 Brera, it just goes.
 

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Apart from turn the Car on, the 1st thing i do is turn it off, It bugs me when it kicks in mine just basically cuts out the engine, Not that safe really when ur trying to pull out of a junction...
 

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Seeing this post reminded me of when the Audi Quatro frist came out. You used to eb able to turn off the anti-lock brakes because apparently in snow (as opposed to ice) a car stop quicker without ant-lock brakes or cadence braking. The build up of snow infront of the locked front wheels will slow the car down.
 

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There's a good 5th Gear video with Tiff at the wheel of an X Type on a frozen lake test ground. It's on the tube & I've posted it on here before. The only time you should turn ASR (traction control) off is to move off in deep snow when the car has been left. The Alfa systems are excellent and very relaxed compared to some.
 

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Haven't checked the manual to be sure, but maybe you just turn off ASR when you have snow chains on I think?

RE braking on snow, AFAIK modern ABS systems are not really comparable to earlier onces since they have a lot more processing power that their adaptive braking algorithms can use for different surfaces.

I haven't seen any hard data mind you, but it would be interesting to see :)
 

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Aye! As I understood it, leave the TC on at all times, unless you have snow chains. They need some slippage to work properly.

ABS is completely unconnected to the ASR on/off switch. It's permanently engaged unless you take the fuse out.


Ralf S.
 

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The only time you should turn ASR (traction control) off is to move off in deep snow when the car has been left. The Alfa systems are excellent and very relaxed compared to some.[/QUOTE]

Thats exactly what the Engineer at my Alfa Dealer told me when I first bought this Car, and he really knew what he was talking about too. He has been servicing Alfa's for Years, and I trust him 100%. So mine is NEVER turned off........:) :)
 

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Following this with great interest. Mind you with 37C today and 39C forecast for next two days it is a bit theoretical! Can we swap some weather please?
 
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