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Hi all
Went to the dealer today to get the Westfalia towbar fitted on my 2011 159 Sportwagon.... doesn't fit.
The problem is that the instructions show two cutout - where we were expecting one large cutout.
The first cutout is the main hole for the vertical fit, detachable towbar to fit through, and the electric socket goes to the left of that (which we were going to move anyway).
However, the template and instructions show a second cutout higher up the bumper and on the top of the rear bumper detail - looking totally pants.
It appears this cutout is to allow the angled metal brackets to go through the bumper.
The other images I have of a Westfalia detachable towbar do not have this hole. Have they changed the design?
Anyway, between me, the fitters and the dealer we decided it was crap and held off fitting it.

Any suggestions as to why this differs to other peoples Sportwagon towbars?

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Hmmm I'm really not quite sure as to what you mean. There are photos on here of the cutout and they are the same as mine - If I get time tonight I shall attempt to upload some.

Mine was fitted about 8 weeks ago now so I doubt the design has changed in any way.
 

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Mine was fitted in Aug last year and they only had to do the lower cut. I had them modify the electrics mount so that it was hidden.
No need for the second cut but it did take the company longer than expected and they were a professional towbar fitters who had done 159's but not Westfalia onto a 159.

They did remove the padding from behind the bumper

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Mmm... I thought perhaps it was just a tight fit.

This is the link to the instructions..

http://www.westfalia-automotive.de/fileadmin/templates/pdf/306-fiat/a306356691101.pdf

Page 13 has the cut-out template

The template shows a second smaller hole above the main cut out. This is the one we don't want, because that is in the curved part of the bumper higher up - and therefore much more visible.
Just seems odd that they say cut it out - when you don't need to.

Attached is the fitting pic
 

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I had this bar fitted by a so called specialist and they made the 2 cutouts which looks terrible :-( and left the elec point showing. To add insult to injury they also broke the rear parking sensors... I defo won't be using them again!!!
 

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Hi Steve
Have just posted you a PM reply to your earlier message.
As the Guys above have mentioned, there is NO NEED to cut the 2nd Smaller Hole.
The Plastic Bumper has enough Flex and will fit, you will not notice any Difference.
As mentioned above, just check the electrical fittings too, it might be an idea to re-position / re-weld the plug mounting bracket vertically - rather than at an angle as supplied.
That way the Towing Plug can be tucked up completely away behind the bumper- with no visible towing equipment.
Give me a call when your able

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Thanks David
We had already planned to move the electric socket up higher anyway. It was purely the second cut that seemed wrong.
The dealer and the towbar fitters were very helpful, but we all decided to dig a little deeper before starting the fit.
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If you look on the other towbar threads there is a picture of my car with the single cut out, modified socket and it is very difficult to see the towbar installation.

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I wished I had done the relocation of the socket now but I didn't know that it was a modifcation - I thought it was just installed that way. Suffice to say the towbar fitter didn't want to take the extra work on! Now the bumper is all back on it is a whole load of hastle to tackle this job...plus I don't have a welder!

But like the others, I don't have that cute, but the lower part of the valance is a little twisted but isn't really that noticable - maybe thats why the upper cut is present? I'd get the towbar fitted now and just ignore that cut like all of us appear to have done!
 

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Just fitted my Witter detachable tow bar. Straight forward job.
Then fitted the PF Jones supplied dedicated wiring kit. Seemed straight forward but...
1st problem wires in rear of car not marked as per instructions, Basic light functions work fine from 7-pin connector. (not parking sensor or fog light without identifying correct wires)
However bigger issue is that now the heated seats and electric sunroof don't work.
No wires have been cut and everything looks ok on small fuse box that is in rear corner of car ( that holds fuses for electric roof and heated seats).

Any ideas or suggestions?
 
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