The show-us-your-164 thread..

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mick164

Discussion Starter · Oct 5, 2015 (Edited)

..as they're getting so scarce now it might be nice to catch up and see what's actually out there..?

So a chance to show off your onesixtyfour with a current pic and a little detail... almost an informal register

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To start, mine is a LHD '97 TB, originally registered in Italy but she lives in Ireland now. She was off the road for a while with a goosed ECU as it turned out, but she's up and running again thankfully

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HaydnW

· #2 · Oct 5, 2015

It's about time we had a thread like this!
Yours looks lovely by the way - what's the TB like to drive? I love the wheels too - Zender Siena?

As for mine, here goes:

I have a 1991 3.0 Cloverleaf in rosso Alfa that is cosmetically shabby but mechanically, pretty sound (at long last). I bought it as my first project in 2012, as it had been parked in a field for 5/6 years after the clutch went. It's far from perfect but I love it all the same.

Earlier this year I bought my second 164 project (I'm a glutton for punishment apparently) which is a Savali-modified 1994 Q4 in proteo rosso. Progress has been slower than I would like for various reasons, but I'm hoping to have it back on the road next year

Pictures below - you can probably work out which is which

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mick164

Discussion Starter · #3 · Oct 5, 2015

..wow, that's some fleet. And milanos too..

Thanks.. yup, sienas, though milanos are even cooler..! The TB is a nice drive.. it doesn't have the hard-edged top end of the 24v V6, but there's something sort of intoxicating about it all the same once it starts coming on boost.. you sort of lope around town in 2nd where you'd normally be in 3rd so you can squeeze the go pedal every now and then just for the hell of it

HaydnW

· #4 · Oct 5, 2015

Thanks

Milanos are my favourite Alfa wheels, I had to be patient to get my hands on a set! I like Sienas a lot too, I came close to buying some earlier this year but was outbid unfortunately. Zender made some great wheels for Alfas.

That sounds like fun :biglaugh: Am I right in saying it's a 2.0 V6? An interesting car regardless, I can't imagine there's many of those still driving around. Like I say - lovely car!

aggy8888

· #5 · Oct 5, 2015

1991 QV - 2 owners, 66,000 miles, near perfect given a few scuffed corners and a stone scarred bonnet (patina). The reason I got bored with my 166 Super.

1991 2.0 V6 TB - LHD of course ex Rome, 89,000 Km, mechanically first class, paintwork deserves some attention. Probably quicker than the QV, very quiet and well mannered.

No photos - I know what they look like and they are not difficult to pick out in the supermarket car park.

Might sell the TB if someone offered Chris Cousins kind of money.

Chris Cousins

· #6 · Oct 6, 2015

aggy8888 said:
Might sell the TB if someone offered Chris Cousins kind of money.

You'll need to advertise it first

My 166 Super sold for the full asking price with no negotiation, am hoping for/expecting the same outcome with the 164.

Will be advertising my Alfa 6 Golf Cloverleaf soon, now that really is a difficult car to price

mick164

Discussion Starter · #7 · Oct 6, 2015

@aggy8888 That V6 TB could be interesting for us here in Ireland where the motortax makes the 3.0 cars all but impossible to own. The lighter, pre-facelift car with that engine must be pretty cool.. you have to post some pics man..!

@HaydnW A Savali Q4 is a real find.. is it running..? Is it a 3.8 then..? Be great to hear how it drives..

HaydnW

· #8 · Oct 6, 2015

aggy8888 said:
1991 QV - 2 owners, 66,000 miles, near perfect given a few scuffed corners and a stone scarred bonnet (patina). The reason I got bored with my 166 Super.

That's a nice pair of 164s - your QV must be one of the lowest mileage Cloverleafs left. For perspective, mine is the same year but has done roughly 3X the mileage...which is beginning to show, if I'm honest!

mick164 said:
@HaydnW A Savali Q4 is a real find.. is it running..? Is it a 3.8 then..? Be great to hear how it drives..

Thanks, I got rather lucky when I bought it as the sellers didn't know what it was...long story! I changed all the belts and tensioners/idlers just to be safe, after which it started up straight away after sitting for 7 years. It doesn't run perfectly though, there's a few idle faults and what not but it'll all be sorted in good time. Somebody fitted LPG to it too....I think that'll be going at some point.

It's (only!) a 3.5 which supposedly develops around 280hp. The problem is, there was no history with the car when I bought it (I took a bit of a gamble) and I've been unable to contact who I believe is the previous owner, so I don't know the full extent of the modifications. I gather it's quite a quick car though...

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Avocet

· #9 · Oct 6, 2015

Excellent idea! There's some mouth-watering stuff on here already - well done chaps, keep 'em coming. It's a real inspiration to see them because, of course, I never see one on the road these days! Mine is still covered in dead bugs from my recent trip and I've been away with work until today. Will try to get it washed and post something later in the week though...

I'm wondering if mine is the only Series 1 left in the country...

...that isn't red or black?!

paul.o

· #10 · Oct 6, 2015

Made it a sticky:thumbup:

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AlfaBetaBlocker

· #11 · Oct 10, 2015

Here's my '91 12V Cloverleaf. Like Haydn's, she's on Zender Milanos. I've also had a Q2 diff fitted and uprated anti-roll bars. The engine was rebuilt last year by Jamie Porter, with new piston rings, bearings and valve guides. I've also fitted Tarox front brakes with 6-pot calipers but I'm going to have to look at replacing the brake master cylinder from the standard one as the pedal travel is reaaaally long.

Land vehicle Vehicle Car Sedan Personal luxury car

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aggy8888

· #12 · Oct 10, 2015

I am interested in the beefed up anti roll bars and their effect on handling?

My TB leans dramatically at the front on long fast bends
More so than the QV
And yet the roll bar part numbers appear to be identical!

How many miles to have needed an engine rebuild?

Kind regards

AlfaBetaBlocker

· #13 · Oct 10, 2015

The anti-roll bars are aftermarket ones, sold by Jason at Alfissimo, but I'm not sure they're available anymore. The engine rebuild was originally just going to be the heads, as the valve guides were worn, causing a bit of smoking. It was a case of "while yer down there" to take the sump off and do the piston rings and bearings while everything was in bits.

Rapittaway

· #14 · Oct 10, 2015

mick164 said:
..as they're getting so scarce now it might be nice to catch up and see what's actually out there..?

So a chance to show off your onesixtyfour with a current pic and a little detail... almost an informal register

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To start, mine is a LHD '97 TB, originally registered in Italy but she lives in Ireland now. She was off the road for a while with a goosed ECU as it turned out, but she's up and running again thankfully

My recently bought '97 QV with 98000 miles and full history is airbag model with black recaros. I've previously owned 2 new ones, a '92 12V QV (black recaro) followed by a '95 24V (M750 OVN) with tan standard leather - all red ones! Those 2 were sold with 75-80k miles, gave me absolutely no trouble and looked showroom apart from minor bonnet chips. This latest (toy) looks great and has a few minor issues that I'm slowly dealing with. The stock Clarion radio is out and being repaired (u/s amp)and there's a Clarion multi-changer in the boot. Reading the threads it seems some guys are willing to pay a fortune for Recaros - personally I remember the standard leather seats being much more comfortable. My driver's side Recaro has the usual cracked/broken side pod- not surprising as its a ridiculous design error. Is it possible to get replacement pods? - I doubt it. I have Powerflex bushes awaiting fitment to top engine mount/dogbone.

I never had to fiddle with my previous QV's as they were new but now I'm having to get back in the habit. Can anyone help me please? - the 'tripmeter' and 'trip 0' buttons have been cross-wired with each button controlling the other function. I've had the instrument mask pulled out to access behind the buttons so as to swap the feeds, but can't extract the wires! They seem to be in a 'push to click' connector but no amount of squeezing and pulling works and I daren't pull too hard as I don't want to break anything! All suggestions/tips very welcome.

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Avocet

· #15 · Oct 12, 2015 (Edited)

OK, there's too much going on and I never got to wash it at the weekend! I'm afraid I'm going to have to chat and post some piccies of it from a few years ago (although it looks much the same now)!

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Alfaomegatron

· #16 · Oct 16, 2015

Senior and junior:thumbup:

Mine was recovered from a festering bus/coach breaker yard, covered in pigeon mess with green yes green window rubbers, 5 years on I'm so glad I bothered, as its the most rewarding car I've ever owned.

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alfa scozia

· #17 · Oct 17, 2015 (Edited)

my 164 Cloverleaf 1995

Presently coming back together after alot of work, you can see the details with loads of images by searching for 'alfa scozia' on FB.

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Avocet

· #18 · Oct 17, 2015

Oh, very smart indeed! Beautiful! (Wheels look a bit odd to me though)?

alfa scozia

· #19 · Oct 18, 2015

Avocet said:
Oh, very smart indeed! Beautiful! (Wheels look a bit odd to me though)?

Stock wheels were a mess, powder coated in white now, throw back to yesteryear 155's.

Would like a nice set of Zender Sienna's ...

17's preferably.

HaydnW

· #20 · Oct 18, 2015 (Edited)

A great selection of 164s so far, it's nice to see so many pictures too.

alfa scozia said:
Presently coming back together after alot of work, you can see the details with loads of images by searching for 'alfa scozia' on FB.

I've been following that on Facebook - I understand you've had the engine running again recently? It looks like you're sparing no expense, good luck with it!

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