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Spent the weekend removing the bolts and attachments from the sump, dip stick drive shaft attachment, engine support, turbo oil return pipe etc. After filling swear jar I finally managed to loosen the two that are hidden up beside gearbox. Thought all i need do was hammer and piece of wood or rubber mallet and it would be free?

It hasn't freed and hasn't budged an inch, tried getting a putty knife in to open it up but can't get anything in there. Has anyone had similar experience or know a good way/tool I need to free it from engine block as it appears welded.

* All bolts have been removed, I have triple checked.
** Tried heat with a brazing torch but it's still welded.
 

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If you are certain all the bolts are out try a thin splitting chisel between the sump and block being very careful. I know on se of the big engines I do we need a block of wood and a lot of violence, I always think I'll crack the sump but it comes off.
 

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I needed to force a scraper into the joint and slowly work it along a few inches before it eventually popped apart. Very strong stuff that gasket compound.
 

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Brute force it will be then, I will not be so shy with it this time around. :)
 

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Just to update, brute force did the trick, used a big hammer and a piece of wood and had three half decent whacks and it just opened up at the sealing face, a putty whatchamacallit in and it was free in seconds.


The issue now is I appear to have to remove subframe to get it off. :(
 

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Just to update, brute force did the trick, used a big hammer and a piece of wood and had three half decent whacks and it just opened up at the sealing face, a putty whatchamacallit in and it was free in seconds.


The issue now is I appear to have to remove subframe to get it off. :(
Sometimes all you need is a bigger hammer
 

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Just to update, brute force did the trick, used a big hammer and a piece of wood and had three half decent whacks and it just opened up at the sealing face, a putty whatchamacallit in and it was free in seconds.


The issue now is I appear to have to remove subframe to get it off. :(
rather than completely removing the frame try slackening bolts off and lowering it down,you may have to lower sump enough to get hand in and disconnect the pick up pipe to fully remove sump. If you can avoid taking frame completely off then I would if I was you
 

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Thanks Johnny, that was what I ended up doing, I removed all bolts on drivers side/belt side and couldn't get it off the engine by the pick-up pipe. So, I just removed the pickup pipe and off it came.
 

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Finally got round to examining the sump and removed the inner plate to see what lay beneath?

Was surprised to find very little in the way of stray metal bits but found these two bits of hard plastic lying right at the bottom of the sump. Do any of you guys know what they are from and should I be alarmed?
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As the item is plastic it has probably been caused from years of heating and cooling cycles plus being submerged in oil. The plastic will have gone brittle. Or when sump was manoeuvred out it was caught?
 
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