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Hi all,I have a 2007 brera in ace condition.so I thought until I discovered a rot hole in the front subframe.So I’m after advice here,do I go all out with brand new or do I go for a reconditioned frame?
 

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Doubt you’ll get a new one anyway. Get a second hand one **** blasted and powder coated. That’s what I did anyway.


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I had mine off and gave it to a metal worker locally who cut out the bad and welded in some new steel. Once repaired gave it a good clean and paint.

saved a few quid doing it that way,was few years back but seem to recall total cost was £150 but I did save on labour as I removed and refitted frame myself
 

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Ive bought 159s to strip and i had one which had a patch crudely placed on the outside of the frame and the receipt costing £125.
I removed a frame from another which had a hole in the frame and asked a local welder to patch, and he collected the frame, cut out 6inch x 3.5inch and patched seemlessly and that cost £30.
 

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An exposed patch "should"...(but often doesn't to be honest ) fail an MOT...so make sure the patch is cut in and fitted flush with the surface, welds ground flat and painted over to conceal the repair to avoid test time issues!!
 

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I've just been looking at a few 159s spares repairs and their mot history, I've just seen one where it failed its test because the patch on the subframe was spot welded instead of seem welded.
I'd best put my tray back on as mines spot welded too
 

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Why would anyone spot weld a patch to a subframe, it’s not a flimsy body panel. Seam welded all the way or it’s just not going to be strong enough
 

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just had to change the exhaust flexi so thought I'd take a pic, I think you'll all agree that, that's some spectacular welding right there which you don't come across very ofter.
That's a Get through it's Mot repair and charge the earth

£120 that cost, but not by me I hasen to add, the car was bought to be a scrapped but running
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it till its mot runs out next month.
 

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If thats on the subframe it still should have failed!!!
 

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I would get another frame, not just put the tray back on. That looks like a rubbish bit of welding that probably isn't anywhere near strong enough.

Sorry to be so blunt, but you safety could depend on it.
 

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I would get that properly fixed....but I dont see it as much of a safety issue to be honest. Ive seen one or two that had more holes than Swiss cheese....never heard of one failing structurally though.
 

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I would get another frame, not just put the tray back on. That looks like a rubbish bit of welding that probably isn't anywhere near strong enough.

Sorry to be so blunt, but you safety could depend on it.
The car was bought as a scrapper as I've said a few post up and probably will be stripped when it's mot runs out next month.
 

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It amazes me how anyone could perform such a repair,no doubt they were proud of their handy work aswell.
Reckon my 6 year old could have done a better job if I let him loose with the mig
 

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So this is the £30 patch I had done on a frame which had gone on the passenger side like the previous pic, though I donk know if it was as bad due to the crude patch, but it shows the welders and then there's, pretend welders.
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