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5 years ago I swapped the rear shocks for Bilsteins, along with new springs; not even sure what springs they were, the (now defunct) specialist told me OEM, later another specialist told me they were lowered (I didnt think so and they it certainly doesnt look or feel it) but either way the handling and ride were both transformed.

Been trying to improve the front ever since. Changed to front Bilsteins about 2 years ago but still running original springs. The Bilsteins improved things a bit but nothing like the improvement the rears did. The front suspension feels just generally dead; poorly damped, badly affected by bumps, horrendously crashy. (Although in all those respects still an improvement on the OEM shocks). Added to that the steering feels a bit light and woolly at speed - though that migt be nothing to do with the springs & shocks. I know a lot of this is GTV-inherent but surely can be improved?

Front bush-arms are recent, Im fanatical about changing them and do so every 10k, 15k tops.

As the front springs are the only original bit, am thinking about changing them. Maybe do the rears as well while at it.

Would love to try Eibach but dont really like the idea of lowering, worried about bottoming out? Also the ride is firm anyway, will this make it rock hard? Even crashier over bumps?

I have heard one opinion of someone I know & respect who claims Bilstein / Eibach is the best combination he has ever known on a GTV - both ride AND handling - and he has a lot of GTV experience, a very experienced specialist. But hes also a racer! And I know how racers like those hard rides....

Anyways anyone tried or got Bilstein / Eibach combo? Any opinions on handling, ride? Is the lower height an issue?

Also - would it be worth just getting new OEM front springs? Do springs get less effective after 11 years?

All opinions greatly appreciated.
 

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i have the 22mm lowered eibach and i admit it does bottom out over certain bumps and enty exits to certain dept stors its most anoying

cant giv opinion on the dampers you have selected but springs i think for eibach are all lowered i think
 

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i have the 22mm lowered eibach and i admit it does bottom out over certain bumps and enty exits to certain dept stors its most anoying

cant giv opinion on the dampers you have selected but springs i think for eibach are all lowered i think
Hows the ride compared to original?
 

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Hi.
I drive the Eibach pro-kit and need to say....GREAT!
the sportsline is 30% harder than the original
And the Pro-kit is 40% harder
I drive an 1,9 Jtd stilo and the original springs are very soft and comfortabel but when u shake the wheel from left to right and back its like swimming. And after the change ist very direct!
No swimming. And they are comfortabel too. Was drive many times over 300 kilometers and more. My back is still in best condition! ;-)
I will change to Bilstein shocks ans my Eibach springs. Its very nice combo
I know somebody with an A3 Audinand he drives this combo. He had KAW ore something like this springs. They was very hard! But now he is still suprised how comfortabel his ride now is!
Greetings

LUCAS
 

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Hiya Johny,

I am aware of this issue and have had discussions with the specialist you mention, true gent! My 3.0 12V Spider, an import, is fitted with Eibach all round, B6 on the rear and Koni Yellow on the front with strutt brace. Transformed-yes! The reason I reply to your post is that the choice of shock on the front was dictated by availability: actually finding shocks for the GTV/Spider for the front recently almost sent me potty-Alfisti.net in Germany found me the Konis' and stated that Bilstein had ceased production although they are attempting to negotiate a limited production run. No-one else had KONI either! I would have prefered to follow the Bilstein on the front advice given the huge credential source. My two litre is a delight on standard springs and Bilstein all round, but the V6 is without doubt heavier at the front, I speculate maybe the Koni are a blessing but I can't compare of course. The V6 does bottom out at times, the last on a Council Car Park hump. Keeps people in jobs you know! Whilst the springs are 30mm lower my ride height is -20 according to calculation as my Spider had slightly different spec on the front to the 24V Spider and the Koni also increased negative camber on the what amounts to a two litre hub. Your GTV is stiffer than the Spider of course and I conclude that the Bilstein route makes sense. THe Eibach ride is softer than expected, no bad thing. The Konis' stop front roll when set at 3/4 turn, not 1/2 as advised. Hope this helps!
 

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Brilliant, thanks everyone, good comprehensive replies, cheers everyone, looks like Eibach is the way to go. One last thing - does the car actually look lowered? Think my car looks low enough, dont want it to look like Max Power machine...
 

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mine were 20mm and its just enough ............................ any lower and your compramising usage on british roads with potholes and adversa camber entrance / exits mine sometime lighly scrapes
 

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Brilliant, thanks everyone, good comprehensive replies, cheers everyone, looks like Eibach is the way to go. One last thing - does the car actually look lowered? Think my car looks low enough, dont want it to look like Max Power machine...
I've just completed this setup on my car a few weeks ago.

It does not look lowered at all. I think possibly the front looks a little higher and the back a little lower than compared to my old knackered 12 year old springs. Not much though, I'm talking maybe 4mm difference. The wheels look centered in the arches and not max-power at the top of the arches at all.

The ride is firmer but also a little less crashy. It's comparable to the original setup for comfort overall. Also it may be helpful to note that I can feel the difference, car corners better and takes bumps a bit differently, but my girlfriend can't tell the difference.
 

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I've just completed this setup on my car a few weeks ago.

It does not look lowered at all. I think possibly the front looks a little higher and the back a little lower than compared to my old knackered 12 year old springs. Not much though, I'm talking maybe 4mm difference. The wheels look centered in the arches and not max-power at the top of the arches at all.

The ride is firmer but also a little less crashy. It's comparable to the original setup for comfort overall. Also it may be helpful to note that I can feel the difference, car corners better and takes bumps a bit differently, but my girlfriend can't tell the difference.
Briliant, thanks J2, that might be all I need to go Eibach. Have you got Bilstein all round as well, or original dampers?
 
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