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Yes all the same length,and to reiterate,no drilling or taking the roof off is required.I also can't see what fitting them upside down will achieve as they are only filled with gas.
 

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Maybe it will prove useful, I attach formal instructions for both sets of struts.
Obviously, Alfa Romeo is not IKEA when it comes to the quality of the instructions.
Second picture, the one asking you to remove bolts, is showing the hood lining from the interior, the part around C pillar. Those two bolts retain a plastic block, that keeps lining tense, just above the seatbelt slot.
 

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I had this problem on Saturday. Roof got stuck when trying to lift the rear window to close the storage compartment.

I was in a hurry and didn't realise it was simply catching on the headrests - if I had, I could have helped it close easily enough. Instead, I closed it manually - but didn't realise that the back of the storage lid was catching the back of the boot as I tried to close it - so now I have a deformed lip I need to get fixed too.....

I need to visit an Alfa specialist today - the roof logged a permanent fault so will no longer attempt to close with motors - and also won't let me fully close the windows.
 

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I closed it manually - but didn't realise that the back of the storage lid was catching the back of the boot as I tried to close it - so now I have a deformed lip I need to get fixed too.....

I need to visit an Alfa specialist today - the roof logged a permanent fault so will no longer attempt to close with motors - and also won't let me fully close the windows.
Happened to me as well - a trip to the body shop was required. Looked a right mess.
If you fully close the roof manually the windows will go back up.
See How to get the hood on a Brera Spider back up if it fails
 

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Happened to me as well - a trip to the body shop was required. Looked a right mess.
If you fully close the roof manually the windows will go back up.
See How to get the hood on a Brera Spider back up if it fails
Thanks. I've done all that - and I even took the panel out from the bottom of the roof storage compartment so that I could fully push the hydraulic lever back - but if I push the roof button, it simply says there is a hood fault.

Front is locked in place, hydraulic release is pushed back, lid is closed and locked, the arms either side of the rear window have been locked up. But it refuses to let me use the button.

I left it at an Alfa specialist at lunchtime, so hopefully they can figure it out.
 

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The hydraulic lever is pushed from inside the cabin; I don't follow the bit about taking out a panel.

I did find with mine that the bolt in the boot had to be turned as hard as possible to allow the windows to go fully back up when closing the door. No need to use the roof close button if doing it manually.

Anyway, I'm sure the specialist will be well versed.
 

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The cable can just bend if you push it back in, so I removed the panel from the floor of the storage area and pushed the cam fully back.

I think you're right about the lock for the storage area lid. Although it did lock in place, it didn't turn as much as I expected so probably wasn't fully closed.
 

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Alfa garage have got the windows closed, but can't get into the roof ECU to see what fault it's logging - and the button still can't be used, because it still says roof failure.

They've recommended a roof specialist in Dorking - which coincidentally fixed a problem with the roof before I actually collected the car from the dealer I bought it from. So will book it in there - at least for now, the car can be used.
 

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Car is now at Cayman Autos in Dorking - dropped it off last night. Hopefully, they can give me an idea of what it needs at some point today.

Clearly the roofs have a mind of their own. On Wednesday, as soon as you pressed the button, it said roof failure. On Thursday, it decided it would start the opening cycle - it lowered the windows - and then said roof failure. But when I then closed it electronically, it was happy that the closing cycle completed.
 

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Cayman Autos have got the roof working again, but the rear glass is catching on the seats - which is what my original problem was. All 4 gas struts are going to be replaced - I could do that myself, but since they have the car anyway it's simpler to get them to do it. Total cost for their work so far and replacing the struts is ~£500 inc vat.

The flap motors were replaced when I viewed the car in March (due to another roof fault) so hopefully, it should work trouble free for a while now. Planning to collect it on Monday.
 

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Cayman Autos sorted my Spider roof in April. I'm sure they I'll get it sorted then you will have the rest of the summer to enjoy.
 

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I got them from Sgs-engineering.com a UK company. Very quick postage and helpful too. They can also re-gas struts as long as they are in good condition.
The numbers that I quoted-taken off my original struts were: 7456VP 0200N & 5579XQ 0100N. From these numbers they found their equivalent which come with a 2 year warranty.
thanks for the info, ordered 2 from SGS for £35 and all issues sorted. Good as new and an easy job to fix.
 

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Thanks to all, it worked for me too, 2 x 200N struts from SGS at £35 all in and fitted in an hour or so. The only mistake I think I made in hindsight was taking the spring clips off the new struts before fitting, I gather they stay on and the strut gets pushed or knocked onto the ball. I shall know for next time but on inspection I couldn't see that the spring clip would deflect enough to fit on the ball but I guess it does.

The second one was really quick, with the roof window section vertical I threw caution to the winds and removed the old strut from the compressed position - there are warnings saying not to do this. However, it worked fine, the strut was pretty shot anyway and it just hissed up to its extended position. That saved putting the roof up and down and had I only realised that the clips stay on it could literally be a 5 minute job. Thanks again to all the contributors on this topic who have probably saved me a couple of hundred drinking vouchers.
 

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Well, Cayman Autos fixed my roof fault in June - new gas struts, total bill £528.
In addition, when I viewed the car in March the roof was failing with flap motor problems - so the dealer got those replaced by Cayman Autos - coincidentally for another £528 - before I purchased the car.

Meaning, that in the last 6 months the car has had new flap motors and all 4 gas struts - at a cost of over £1k. And yet - yesterday - I tried to open the roof and it failed. And it failed to close, but 3 or 4 attemps eventually got it closed.
It seems to fail at the point where the roof lid fully opens. And when I tried to close it, it fails just as the roof lid is almost fully closed.
I tried to open it again later, and had the same problem - and again it took 3 or 4 attempts to get it to close.

I have no idea what the failure is - pretty sure it's not the gas struts so maybe it's flap motors again. But I am getting well and truly sick of this. I've never particularly wanted a convertible before - but the Spider has convinced me that driving with the roof down is a lovely experience. But I've now reached the point where I'm scared to open the damn thing in case it fails.

It is spoiling an otherwise lovely car.
 

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But I am getting well and truly sick of this. I've never particularly wanted a convertible before - but the Spider has convinced me that driving with the roof down is a lovely experience. But I've now reached the point where I'm scared to open the damn thing in case it fails.

It is spoiling an otherwise lovely car.
Welcome to my world!
The first few years I had with mine I felt just the same, and spent a total of £600 on 're-alignments' (no new parts). That proved only to be a temporary fix on each occasion.
After suffering from the awful 'roof anxiety' for far too long, I finally got to grips with opening and closing the damn thing fully manually. It takes a bit longer but I know I'm guaranteed to be able to fully open and fully close it with absolutely no worry, and that's worth its weight in gold to me.
I've now gone from hardly ever dropping the roof because of the worry and hassle, to dropping it every time the sun shines.
 

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Welcome to my world!
The first few years I had with mine I felt just the same, and spent a total of £600 on 're-alignments' (no new parts). That proved only to be a temporary fix on each occasion.
After suffering from the awful 'roof anxiety' for far too long, I finally got to grips with opening and closing the damn thing fully manually. It takes a bit longer but I know I'm guaranteed to be able to fully open and fully close it with absolutely no worry, and that's worth its weight in gold to me.
I've now gone from hardly ever dropping the roof because of the worry and hassle, to dropping it every time the sun shines.
I must admit, I have considered that going fully manual might be the answer!

Tonight it will be dropped off at Cayman again - their work is warrantied, so want to see if it's a free repair.
 

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I must admit, I have considered that going fully manual might be the answer!

Tonight it will be dropped off at Cayman again - their work is warrantied, so want to see if it's a free repair.
Admittedly it's not ideal to be doing it manually, but it is surprisingly easy when you've done it a few times. If you do decide to go down this route, don't try and follow the owner's manual's instructions - it just wasn't clear and precise enough to give me the confidence to do it. Far better to use Alfa Workshop's guide How to get the hood on a Brera Spider back up if it fails

Good luck at Cayman. If they were local to me I'd probably have had them look at mine by now. There doesn't seem to be anyone in the north west, only the useless main dealers.
 
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