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I am a new GTV owner (1997, 2.0TS) and my car seems to be a little slow off the mark. It isnt that i am a boy racer, but sometimes you just need to get away a but sharpish and i seem to lack the power even with my foot buried to the floor. This is mostly a problem on hill starts- unless i rev the nuts off the poor thing i am in grave danger of stalling. Can anyone advise me as to whether this is common, or is there something i can do about it, short of having to jettison all the optional extras to cut down on weight. Thanks, in anticipation of a simple solution.
 

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I've found the TS to be very difficult to stall, even on hill starts - I can pull away with it idling on a very slight incline, don't have to use the gas at all. Is the clutch slipping?
 

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No, not getting any clutch slip, just seems to lack the power. Through higher revs in all other gears it is fine and very speedy. I havent actually stalled it, but it seems to be on the point- could be very embarrasing if i let it get that far though!! Any other thoughts.?
 

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I have to admit, when I first bought my T-Spark, I noticed that it seemed to get a bit "bogged-down" when trying to pull away quickly.

Try giving it a few more revs before you let the clutch up - you should find it pulls away a bit better then :D
 

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I have to admit, when I first bought my T-Spark, I noticed that it seemed to get a bit "bogged-down" when trying to pull away quickly.

Try giving it a few more revs before you let the clutch up - you should find it pulls away a bit better then :D

I noticed the same on my dads Spider. I think the gearing is quite tall and combined with the cars weight it makes it feel a bit bogged down.
A remap helped a lot though. ;)

If it is really bad you could have a Lambda or MAF issue which will mess up the cars fuelling and cause problems like this.
 

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It really does need a few revs to get going as it is quite a heavy car - after a time you don't think about it. I only really notice if I drive the 147 and tend to pull away a bit too quickly away from a standing start.

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As others have said, you do need to rev it if you want to pull away quickly, however, your car does seem to have a problem if it is stalling...
 

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Thanks for the info guys- i havent been stalling the car, it is just that my experience with other cars on hill starts isnt good. I will try a few more revs whilst trying not to wheel spin next to the Citroen Saxo Brigade.!
 

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SYMONH2000 talked of a remap- how much is that likely to set me back and where is the best place for that kind of thing? I always thought that it could put a lot more strain on the engine. Mine is a '97 with 84k on the clock. Would it be completely safe?
 

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Think PaulR is along with me then, the 147 2.0 L we have, is a zappy little accelerator, when we need to dash about. Not that often, have to say.:D
 

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SYMONH2000 talked of a remap- how much is that likely to set me back and where is the best place for that kind of thing? I always thought that it could put a lot more strain on the engine. Mine is a '97 with 84k on the clock. Would it be completely safe?
The 1997 model doen't actually need a remap, all you need to do is buy a chip and plug it into the ECU. The most recommended one is from squadra tuning.

Have a look here http://www.squadra-tuning.com/

You will need to find out which ecu you have although if your car is 1997 it will probably be M2.10.3

It won't put much strain on the engine as all it does is optimise fuel and ignition curves.
 

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Cars made after 1999 or with the plastic topped engine have to be re-mapped as they cannot be chipped. Angel tune will sort it out for arround £400. I think you gain about 12lbft of torque and 10-15bhp although the car will then run better on super unleaded.

I have a Titan chip in my QV as it is an Ally top model and although I only get around 10bhp I can still use normal unleaded.
 

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Thanks for the advice- i am looking at one of their chips at the moment and it seems pretty good value at 230EUROS. Has anyone here installed one themselves? I know its supposed to be pretty easy but i know you guys are brutally honest..!!
 

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My 99 model TS GTV has always been slow off the mark, not like other 2.0 TS models I've had......I've suspected dodgy MAF / LAMBDA sensor or maybe stepper motor / Idle valve as revs a sometimes shakey when stationary.....???
Or maybe GTV's are geared differently? and they are heavier.
 

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My 99 TS GTV seemed abit sluggish about 3 months into buying it. However mine did have as cracked inlet manifold which was causing fuelling problems. I would let a specialist have a quick look before i tuned it cos mine needed the idle settings changing (or something like that. I am not that mechanically minded but the specialist i use has gotta be one of the best in the country). Now it has good power from the start and pulls right through to 7k revs.

Just a thought.
 

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hi mate,you can get a chip for your car for £180 from www.autodelta.co.uk.they specialize in alfa upgrades and this chip will make your car 10-12bhp faster.its £180 for gtv's under 1998 and £280 for all gtv 2.0 1999 and above.also it could just be your plugs £8 each and just one last thing,it could be your air flow metre does it accelerate a bit patchy or does it go smooth when you floor it?
 
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