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Does anyone have issues with spinning their GTV in the wet?

i have done three times now, and don't believe its down to driving to fast. The back end comes out at the slightest turn.

Anyone else had experiance of this?
 

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Does anyone have issues with spinning their GTV in the wet?

i have done three times now, and don't believe its down to driving to fast. The back end comes out at the slightest turn.

Anyone else had experiance of this?
It sounds to me as if you have rear suspension or tyre issues. The rear of the gtv is very difficult to unstick normally.

Firstly check your rear tyre pressures an tread depth.
 

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Very odd that you're losing the back given that its a front wheel drive car...I'd get it seen too pronto :)
 

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You can get the back out if you try. I have done once in the dry (big style, but not a spin) just after I bought it and was testing the limits.

You can get the back to 'wander' in the wet fairly easy if you try, but I don't think I've ever been near by accident, only when I was pushing it.
 

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I had a Clio Williams which started flipping out a lot - thought it was my driving :)
However when checked the rear springs were badly damaged/cracked and had leaking shockers so is worth getting someone to check the suspension for you.
 
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My brothers race MG Maestros which are front wheel drive, i once got the back end out in my spider in the wet going round a round-a-bout, looked well cool, anyway asked them about it and they said the worst thing to do in front wheel drive car when going around a curve is let off the foot pedal, once you commit you have to go through with it all the way, otherwise it loses back end or worse case lose it totally. This explains why front wheel drive can lose it at the rear i thionk.
 

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It may well be physically possible to loose the back end of a front wheel drive car in extremem condition, but in slawson's case it seems to be happening too frequently. As I said before, the car needs to be checked out immediately.
 

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Does anyone have issues with spinning their GTV in the wet?

i have done three times now, and don't believe its down to driving to fast. The back end comes out at the slightest turn.

Anyone else had experiance of this?
I have managed it in the dry in a Sud (incredibly) and in a Rover 216GTI in the wet. But thats twice in 21 years of reasonably enthusiastic driving so it is not normal in FWD.

Both times were simply down to coming off the throttle when cornering hard in a low gear i.e 2nd or 3rd. If you are doing this, stop or you will kill yourself soon. If this is definitely not the problem then tyres should be checked first, pressure and tread depth on the rears (and type - are they the same or mixed, what tyre are they etc).

Suspension wise, if the shocks have been changed recently then that may be the issue - if harder shocks have been put on the back than the front then this will make it relatively tail happy.

Last - the rear bushes could be shot - you will need to get this sorted soon.

Never lost the back end of my Spider wet or dry, the front always goes first and that is with same tyres all round. So again, tail happiness on a GTV/Spider is not normal in my experience.
 

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I used to be able to get my old mk6 escort's rear end out on cue.

Dead easy to drift that car, did it for fun round roundabouts late at night when nobody was around.
 
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Last - the rear bushes could be shot - you will need to get this sorted soon.

Worst case senario bushes Fukced sub frame damaged this will stop the rear wheel steering that the GTV has working properly hence the tail stepping out easily :(
 

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Thanks for everyones replies. I did used to have a rear bush problem which i had sorted with powerflex bushes and to be honest i haven't spun the car since. However i obviously didn't relate the too things.

i still feel my car is isn;t good in the wet. i am going to start a new thread on tyres to get some further feed back.

Thanks again
 

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There's quite a few threads about tyres already, it might be worth your while doing a search beforehand :)
 

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My brothers race MG Maestros which are front wheel drive, i once got the back end out in my spider in the wet going round a round-a-bout, looked well cool, anyway asked them about it and they said the worst thing to do in front wheel drive car when going around a curve is let off the foot pedal, once you commit you have to go through with it all the way, otherwise it loses back end or worse case lose it totally. This explains why front wheel drive can lose it at the rear i thionk.
It's called 'lift off oversteer'. All cars do it to some extent, FWD and RWD, but some are worse than others. The Porsche 911 used to be lethal, its natural habitat really was to be sat in a ditch backwards.

I think someone posted a video on here ages ago showing a Peugeot 207 going spectacularly sideways before hitting a ditch and rolling.
 
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