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I can see why they are fighting for the 'freedom', but can't help thinking it is all to make a name for themselves instead of protecting the whales...
I watched Discovery's 'whale wars' recently & that was exactly the impression I was left with, let's have a 'jolly' round the arctic under the pretence of protecting wildlife, all for their own publicity IMO


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the sea shepherds do sterling work on whale wars, mst of the crew are volunteers and spend 3 months in harsh conditions, good on them for putting there money where their mouths are and getting up off their a55es and doing something....all we see are the dramatised bits, as usual, we dont see the ardships they suffer whilst out at sea, they dont just deter the japanese whalers...being polite there did you notice?.....from needlessly killing whales for "research" purposes they are based in other parts of the world, Taiji in japan where the dolphins are clubbed to death in front of each other in a tiny cove, the "lucky" ones are carted off to perform in places like seaworld and die young...working to build up the turtle populations, and many other projects

http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=sea shepherd&source=web&cd=1&sqi=2&ved=0CDQQFjAA&url=http://www.seashepherd.org/&ei=fQYxT-DBOcTF0QXanJSmBw&usg=AFQjCNH2oLlr_EYdYWcnPoieNZvJhE3U8A

http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=the cove&source=web&cd=3&sqi=2&ved=0CF4QFjAC&url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cove_(film)&ei=nwYxT_W4HKar0QXFzIm5Bw&usg=AFQjCNGWU7PXzRyL8QwajOVeOv6kkVk56A

http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=the cove&source=web&cd=4&sqi=2&ved=0CGcQtwIwAw&url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KRD8e20fBo&ei=nwYxT_W4HKar0QXFzIm5Bw&usg=AFQjCNEHGfJWbN6wkxE17sBWUxVFS_O5bg

http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=morgan orca&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CDAQFjAA&url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morgan_(orca)&ei=ywkxT5i-JaWr0QWh_YCrBw&usg=AFQjCNHO8Q-e26vK9pSd9JOPizYiQVZ9Zg

it sickens me to see the brutality the "fisherman" use against such beautiful animals, traumatising young calves who they have picked out and then are then whisked away, if places like seaworld didnt exist then there would be no need for this to be happening....yes i know that seaworld do a lot for conservation so why not carry on doing that and leave the dolphins and whales to live free and happy in the wild where they should be..they were involved in the capture of "Morgan" a young orc that was caught off Holland and was sick, the dutch vets rehabiliatated her and they looked for her pod family, found them and planned on putting her back in the wild with her family, seaworld were involved and now she lives in a tiny tank far away form her family..

http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=morgan orca&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CDsQFjAB&url=http://www.freemorgan.org/&ei=ywkxT5i-JaWr0QWh_YCrBw&usg=AFQjCNHR5yIaUwtQ7IfMID3uDX4TJsVbQA


i think PETA are right in what they are publiscing the slavery and that seaworld and the other "aquariums" should join together and build huge tanks like the one they had for keiko aka free willy, they have the money!!!!!!! the whales and dolphins they have in these places would probably never survive in the wild after years of eating dead fish and depending onhumans for everything, so perhaps as a goodwill gesture seaworld could organise a better more natural place for the animals to live, there is currently a lot of backlash against these places due to the bad publicity they are getting, im hoping that people will realise that its not natural to sist and watch these magnificent creatures performing tricks for their amusement....a big hope methinx

and no before anyone asks another stupid question ..im not a vegetarian....:rolleyes:

and neither am i a tree hugging, hippy ...well i am a little bit.....i just hate to see mistreatment and cruelty
 
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Seaworld in Australia has stopped 'performing' whales etc. years ago because of the fact they recognised that it is extremely cruel to the animals involved. End of story.

Giggle over that one. It's hilarious.
 

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Thats a good decision lets hope the others follow on
 

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Anyhoo, the thread isn't about the rights or wrongs of keeping whales in captivity for performances, but PETA's method of contesting it...

...which is a joke.
 
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Thats a good decision lets hope the others follow on
Yes. We can only hope. That's why I like Peta and Greenpeace. They really may seem to be bonkers in some of the things they do, but there's method in their madness. They need to do that because most people are indifferent to facts alone, but once things are taken over the top in many situations some debate is generated and that is a good thing. :thumbs:

You can say what you like about Greenpeace but scaredy-cats is one thing they're not.

While I'm at it, a pox on the Japanese and their killing whales for 'research' that end up being eaten by rich Japanese. Hopefully there is a form of 'mad whale' disease out there which might make the need for 'research' a little less desirable. :mad:
 
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Imagine | Sea World

Apparently it is still ok for dolphins to perform though.
Yes it is. Dolphins have always been happy to interact with humans. Given the RIGHT situations they enjoy it and do it v o l u n t a r i l y. There is a big difference.

Believe me Queensland has some of the more expert dolphin behavioral people around and they have the ability to shut things down tomorrow if people got up to shenanigans that were harmful to dolphins. :cool:
 

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Yes it is. Dolphins have always been happy to interact with humans. Given the RIGHT situations they enjoy it and do it v o l u n t a r i l y. There is a big difference.

Believe me Queensland has some of the more expert dolphin behavioral people around and they have the ability to shut things down tomorrow if people got up to shenanigans that were harmful to dolphins. :cool:
The lawsuit does not cover enjoyment, but rather being forced to live in tanks and perform daily.

Are the dolphins free to move into the wild?
 

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Do I need to free my sons goldfish?
 
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The lawsuit does not cover enjoyment, but rather being forced to live in tanks and perform daily.

Are the dolphins free to move into the wild?
Every evening at around dusk dolphins come into Moreton Island from the open sea to interact with people who feed them fish. This has happened since ancient Aboriginal times when the Aborigines taught the Dolphins to round up fish for them. It's quite something to see. They come up to you right out of the water. Nobody is forcing them in the least. They don't rely on this fish as their main diet. That is very important.

There are a number of places in Australia where dolphins interact with people on the dolphin's terms. Monkey Mia in WA is another. I think you have got the wrong idea about the dolphins in Seaworld. They are not in tanks but are basically in the 'wild' for want of a better word. They are not entrapped.

I'm not a mouthpiece for Seaworld and it still sh1ts me in some ways that they profit from this but as long as the dolphins don't mind and people get to see dolphins in the wild I guess it's acceptable.
 
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