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At the beginning at this problem the car was driving fine but in 1st or 2nd when stopping at lights etc it would drop into neutral and then take a good few attempts to go backinto fi

Now,I can't get the selespeed into gear shift or when it shifts it will randomly goes into neutral. Especially when you want to change gear it goes in to Neutral.


Someone told me it could be the "accumulator".

Accumulator, the word doesn't make sense to me in this context. As an accumulator should add up something .

What could the problem be and how much is it to fix, if it is the "accumulator".

I have read somewhere £1000, if I am lucky .
 

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Accumulator 'accumulates' high pressure oil into itself [ vessel ] for use during gear change.

the system has 3 parts:

1. pump, 12volt brushed motor, powered via realy

2. oil, must be Tutela CS or Castrol Dexron III oil in it [ 600mL ]

3. actuator: consist of solenoids & pistons

on the actuator is a black round chamber/vessel... this is the accumulator.

the oil pressure should operate beteeen 45bar & 55bar

on the inlet to the actuator, behind the 22mm spring loaded nut, is a fine wire mesh, if that is blocked then that will effect oil flow/pressure

also there are 3 'pots' ... the most trouble some is the hi/med/low pot located at the rear of the actuator under the abs pump/assembly

you can get NEW actuator for approx £700 + vat

Accumulators are Approx £50
 

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This happened to me about a year ago, not pleasant im affraid and very expensive!:mad: The actuator has gone and it cost me £1700 all in, altho that was from an alfa dealer so the price was slightly higher than most im sure!! u can keep yourself going by topping up with transmition fluid but wont last forever, having said that u could just have a leak in which case could be fixed much much cheaper! hope u get it sorted pal.
 

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sounds like the very symptoms mine had before the pump packed up, unfortunately you have been given three answers advising to change three different bits.

How much oil is in the reservoir? low oil level means it does not work properly. Frequent topping up suggests a leak somewhere.

Does the pump operate (that whirring sound ) when opening the drivers door? Does it run for ages? about 5-7 seconds is all it needs, maybe a bit longer if left overnight. When you cannot get a gear, try opening the door, do you get the whirring then?

A new pump is £250 is and a couple of hours, DIYable or no special tools, nowhere as expensive as an acctuator.

HTH
 

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the pump can be repaired by replacing the brushes if your competent enough to do it.
 
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If it is pressure related it would be rare to just come out of gear as the unit only puts it into gear but does not hold it into gear as you could have a clutch issue with it.The best and quickest thing to do is put a diag on it and get the pressures and measurements as this could save the purchase of unneeded parts...
 
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sounds like the very symptoms mine had before the pump packed up, unfortunately you have been given three answers advising to change three different bits.

How much oil is in the reservoir? low oil level means it does not work properly. Frequent topping up suggests a leak somewhere.

Does the pump operate (that whirring sound ) when opening the drivers door? Does it run for ages? about 5-7 seconds is all it needs, maybe a bit longer if left overnight. When you cannot get a gear, try opening the door, do you get the whirring then?

A new pump is £250 is and a couple of hours, DIYable or no special tools, nowhere as expensive as an acctuator.

HTH
This is where my posting is coming from...
 

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Hi mine is giving problems

changes 1 2 4 5
comes down 5 4 3 2 1 sometines sticks in neurtal

any ideas took it to a gearbox specialist he says electrical problem intemitant i think I was caught cost me 80 pounds just for that answer
 

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Hi mine is giving problems

changes 1 2 4 5
comes down 5 4 3 2 1 sometines sticks in neurtal

any ideas took it to a gearbox specialist he says electrical problem intemitant i think I was caught cost me 80 pounds just for that answer
better buy Alfadiag and a USB lead.... saves you loads of money
especially with a Selespeed !!!
 

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The guys from the garage want 130 pounds to find the problem, as they say there is some problem with acctuator and they have to diassamble some parts.

They say that it is stuck in gear, which I don't belive. As the car was in neutral when I left it there and the nice AA-Roadpatrol man could push it easily.

I think that garage makes use out of , that I am unexperinced.
The thing is that I have just fixed the clutch with them, about 50 miles ago. And now I have issues with the Selespeed.

The problem is that, the Selespeed doesn't get into gear and when I am driving along it drops randomly into neutral, or when I try to change gear it goes into neutral.
The problem begun with not being able to get into reverse.
 
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What garage?

Is it an Alfa/Alfa independant?

Whereabouts in London are you?
 
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Selespeed has an accumulator which is part of the actuator.
Alfa dont do the accmulator separate from the actuatror but fiat do.
If the sele doesnt want to go into a gear it can be a calibration problem but dropping out of gear to neutral can be a pressure problem so not to leave you stuck in gear as i understand it tho i bow to those with more knowledge.
The accumulator is expensive ie round about the price you quote or a bit cheaper from alternative autos etc. The accumulator which holds the pressure in the system is much cheaper. Do a search on here and you'll find the fiat part no and price.
I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong
 

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This is where my posting is coming from...
I was not suggesting the OP just went out and bought a new pump, merely an indication of how much the part was and how long to fix gieven a similar experience, I thought it would be more reassuring to know it may not be a expensive as the £1000 for an actuator being suggested.

AlfaDiag is the way to go for sure, but with a bit of nous and experience of others on here, you can still diagnose some stuff without it.
 

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Hi mine is giving problems

changes 1 2 4 5
comes down 5 4 3 2 1 sometines sticks in neurtal

any ideas took it to a gearbox specialist he says electrical problem intemitant i think I was caught cost me 80 pounds just for that answer
I'm sorting one right now that is doing this, it's geting a new clutch as the release bearing has gone, so that should cure this one.
 

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Do you think the problem could be, because the have done something wrong by fitting a new clutch in the car ?
 
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