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Hi - I have an Alfa Romeo Selespeed that I have owned for 9 years - it has just dev a problem with the gears . It will only go into 1st and 2nd gear and then neutral. Garage says it will need a new actuator but do not give me any reassurance this will fix it. What should I do?

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Thanks alan - I am thinking I need to bring my car home and work out how to check the fluid levels in the gears. I believe it needs a certain pressure to change gears . I have never added 'oil' fluids to the gear system maybe this is worth doing before replacing actuators.

I am also wondering where the best place is to buy actuators .

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Do not go jumping to conclusions until you are sure whats wrong. Check the basics first.Selespeed oil level , there is a how to on the Selespeed sticky at the top of the page.Is the garage you went to an Alfa garage that knows the Selespeed gearbox? Do not start replacing parts until you know whats wrong with it.
 

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- I am thinking I need to bring my car home and work out how to check the fluid levels in the gears. I believe it needs a certain pressure to change gears . I have never added 'oil' fluids to the gear system maybe this is worth doing before replacing actuators.

Janet
Am I right in thinking you have owned the car for 9 years and have never checked the oil level in the Selespeed system?
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You need to get it to an ALFA garage .They will have the equipment to test for what is wrong . It doe's not sound as if it is the actuator ,the car would cut out and you wouldn't have any gears . Replacing an actuator is approx £800 .
 

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Thanks for all this advice

Yes it is an alfa garage - my car went into the garage a year ago and they re - set the 'computer' and it has been fine since although once or twice it seemed to have problems going through the gears .

I have not re placed selespeed oil for gears but I have replaced engine oil.


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I would have thought the garage would have checked the oil and topped it up as required ? Check inside the engine bay if there is a leak it will be all over the floor pan and the reservoir will be low. The gear fluid is approx £20 a bottle from your ALFA dealer and if the reservoir is topped up the gears should be OK but you should still have it checked .What mileage is the car ?

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Ian

No there is not oil over the floor pan - I have asked the garage to give me a report so I can see if they have checked oil levesl. I am hoping that they would have checked oil levels a year ago .

I am not confident that spending £1200 on a new actuator will solve the problem

I would be interested to know if anyone has fixed selespeed problems.

It is a beautiful car and I have had over 100,000 miles of problem free motoring. I hope I can sort this out but it seems I am going to have to become and expert myself .

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There are Alfa garages that do not know the Selespeed gearbox . The selespeed oil (CS Speed Tutella)costs £10 for a liter bottle but the whole system only needs 600ml. It should be checked weekly at the same time as the engine oil is checked.The Selespeed can be fixed just as any other mechanical or electrical fault can be fixed. There are a couple of Selespeed experts/specialists on this forum wait on there advice.
 

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i dowt it can be the actuator mind as i recently changed mine. A specialist came to mee my car last week and he said this might be from the ECU not responding properly or something i wasnt too sure. Did this happen when it was wet as mine did last night but now since its sunny its woking perfectly again so got a feeling water might have done something to either a sensor or the chip.
 

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Thanks again for advice

I have seen the website -re tech information . It looks good and the trouble shooting section certainly identifies the problem I have. It gives me hope.

It doesn't perform differently if it is wet or dry weather although I have driven through some very bad floods coming home from work over the last couple of years. At the time it didn't miss a beat.

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you need a diagnostic first (Alfadiag) check pressure +- 50 bar, and clutch rod length 28 28.5 mm
then a recalibrate. Maybe the pump is failing (brushes) !
 

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Hi Janet

If you haven't fixed it yet, a few pointers to check;

1). Can you hear the pump running when you first open the drivers door? If not, pump (or power to it) has failed.
2). Does the pump run longer than 8 sec's? (if it runs on longer, say 10 to 15 sec's, the pressure accumulator has failed - new one is Fiat Part Number 71751195, approx £50 plus labour
3). Have it calibrated if the above is ok.

As you can only select 1st & 2nd, it sounds like either a pressure related fault or a loss of com's at sometime bewteen the ECM and actuator. A calibration should pick it up.
The actuators do wear where the selector shaft runs in it, so??

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My Selespeed will not select any other gear than 1st. So I just wondered if there is anything else I can check myself to see if it fixes it before taking it to a garage?

By the way its a 1999 156 Selespeed and there was a new actuator fitted by autolusso end of last year (so surely it can't be that). Oh and I don't have any diagnostic software/cables to look at faults myself.

I'm going back to my parents tomorrow (where my 156 is stranded at the moment) so quick replies would be greatly appreciated as will try everything suggested tomorrow.

Thanks very much all you boffins :)
 

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I have just been to the garage today and I have brought my car home - through this forum I have been able to ask if certain checks have been made and I can eleminate them. The garage say they have carried out all diagnostic tests and cannot find anything wrong - they have checked the fluid levels and pressures and say they are fine. They say they have carried out diagnostic tests and the soleniod connections are good between gears and engine speed. They say the accummulator is fine. They cannot think of anything other than the actuator that can be wrong. The seals are fine on the actuator but they think there could be some mechanism inside that is wrong. I have just opened the car door and the pump runs for a couple of seconds. Driving the car home again it still goes into neutral instead of 3rd gear. Sometimes it will go straight into 5th so I have been able to limp it home. The garage however is no longer purely Alfa specialist , which it used to be. They say it is very unusual to have a Selespeed to work on. Ideally they would like to have a donor part to put on to see if it works before having to charge me unfortunately they don't have a spare. My next step is to try to find a specialist Alfa mechanic/garage or maybe replace the actuator myself. I will keep you all informed of progress.

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There was someone on the forum from the Manchester area with Alfa diag. Do a search and see if you can find who it is and get in touch with them.
 
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