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** Security Device - For Giulia/Stelvio Front Cruise Control System Unit vulnerability **

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Dear forum members,

You will undoubtedly have read and seen a lot about the thefts on social media and from the Alfa Romeo Giulia/Stelvio community that is currently plagued by these ongoing thefts. These thefts occur due to a known weakness in the car's security. The distance radar in the front bumper is central to this easily exploitable vulnerability and takes seconds to enable entry into the car, then allowing a duplicate key to be cloned.

There are some mechanical solutions for this vulnerability such as a protective metal plate but this is not 100% effective in the event of an attempted theft to access the radar given enough time.

The worst thing about this vulnerability is that cars with immobilizers and, for example, steering locks are not spared either. Even if the car is not taken due to presence of an aftermarket immobiliser, the car can still be unlocked and opened by the thieves, causing damage to the interior if they decide to try and locate the hidden immobiliser.

However, there is now an "Electronic" solution that does work. For obvious reasons I cannot publicly provide further details about the solution. This product can also be used in combination with existing theft prevention devices such as immobilizers, trackers and steering locks.

In short it means that there will no longer be any opportunities for the thieves to open the car via this vulnerability.

As of today, some 60 cars (2016 to 2022 build, Giulia and Stelvio - ALL models with Radar) have this device installed all without any problems, but above all: no more successful burglary/theft attempts! They can try all they like.

The device had worked perfectly during testing on my own car (installed for 3 months now) and based on feedback from others. It does what it should do and therefore gives many owners a lot of peace of mind along with any additional security measures.

To ensure that only rightful owners of Giulia and Stelvio who wish to obtain this device are given the opportunity to obtain this, there will be strict due diligence performed. That is why we first work with a waiting list that will be maintained outside this forum. After you are placed on this waiting list it you will be provided further details. Strict verification will take place to get on the waiting list, this means that you will have to prove that you are the rightful owner of a Stelvio/Giulia.

You can perform the installation of the device yourself; detailed instructions are included. I also have liaised with 2 personally known professional automotive business (both are owners of a Giulia and have this installed on their own cars) in the South of UK to carry out installation for about 1 hour’s labour. I am also speaking to some of our long term Alfa Specialists on here for other locations to be covered.

You can register for this device and place yourself on the waiting list by contacting me via PM. I will carry out verification and then add you to a private group. Price and further details will be provided when you get in touch. The timescales for production to delivery is currently about 2 months as we need confirmed numbers before we can place a bulk order with the parts suppliers for production to begin.

NOTE: This a private DIY venture that was started by a couple of us Giulia owners to help other Alfisti here. This started off as a project to protect our own cars but we soon realised we could offer this to benefit others and have done so in the first batch of 60 cars.

Installation of this device will not interfere with any servicing or warranty work as we are not modifying anything in the car. This is a plug and play but secure solution that cannot be tampered with.


It doesn't matter if you have Security Gateway Module (SGW) or not. This solution is totally independent of all other security, either manufacturer installed or aftermarket.
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I can confirm that the vetting procedure is thorough and involves documented proof of ownership and photographic evidence, before you can get further details.
As it should be. If thieves know about these devices, their usefulness is significantly reduced.
 

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FAO of ALL.

One or two people who have messaged me are concerned about providing proof of ownership. Here are some points addressing this:

1. No information will be provided without confirmed proof of ownership.
2. It is fair to be concerned about providing personal details such as V5 or invoice. The address can be masked when providing proof. I would be wary too.
3. I need to match ownership with the actual car and owner's name, otherwise ownership cannot be established so if you are not prepared to provide this information, please don't proceed. Proof will be deleted once I have verified ownership.
4. All information provided will be treated with utmost confidence as I would expect myself if I were in the same position. A few members can vouch for me here as I have been around since 2007 (the history is easy to check). Some have met me personally and have installed the device on their own cars.
5. This post and the original post is NOT a sales pitch. We don't have to offer this solution and are not doing this commercially. It is a private venture by myself and @rjc147 in our spare time. The cost will cover parts and some of our time invested around our full time jobs and family.
6. Once you are on the waiting list and order is placed, the device will be delivered to you once actual timescales are known (roughly 2 months in staggered batches of 10 - expected production of 50 to 100 blocking devices only). Once device is delivered, the only information that will be retained is your name, car model details and serial number so we know which device is with whom for future reference. Personal details such as address etc. will be deleted.
7. There is an element of trust and this works both ways.

Hope this alleviates any concerns or questions.
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Dear forum members,

You will undoubtedly have read and seen a lot about the thefts on social media and from the Alfa Romeo Giulia/Stelvio community that is currently plagued by these ongoing thefts. These thefts occur due to a known weakness in the car's security. The distance radar in the front bumper is central to this easily exploitable vulnerability and takes seconds to enable entry into the car, then allowing a duplicate key to be cloned.

There are some mechanical solutions for this vulnerability such as a protective metal plate but this is not 100% effective as a determined thief can cause vehicle damage in the event of an attempted theft to access the radar given enough time.

The worst thing about this vulnerability is that cars with immobilizers and, for example, steering locks are not spared either. Even if the car is not taken due to presence of an aftermarket immobiliser, the car can still be unlocked and opened by the thieves, causing damage to the interior if they decide to try and locate the hidden immobiliser.

However, there is now an "Electronic" solution that does work. For obvious reasons I cannot publicly provide further details about the solution. This product can also be used in combination with existing theft prevention devices such as immobilizers, trackers and steering locks.

In short it means that there will no longer be any opportunities for the thieves to open the car via the front radar thus preventing starting the car and cloning of a new key.

As of today, some 60 cars (2016 to 2022 build, Giulia and Stelvio - ALL models with Radar) have this device installed all without any problems, but above all: no more successful burglary/theft attempts!

The device had worked perfectly during testing on my own car (installed for 3 months now) and based on feedback from others. It does what it should do and therefore gives many owners a lot of peace of mind along with any additional security measures.

To ensure that only rightful owners of Giulia and Stelvio who wish to obtain this device are given the opportunity to obtain this, there will be strict due diligence performed. That is why we first work with a waiting list that will be maintained outside this forum. After you are placed on this waiting list it you will be provided further details. Strict verification will take place to get on the waiting list, this means that you will have to prove that you are the rightful owner of a Stelvio/Giulia.

You can perform the installation of the device yourself; detailed instructions are included. It is not complicated, but it is useful to have some automotive DIY knowledge and tools. I also have liaised with 2 personally known professional automotive business (both are owners of a Giulia and have this installed on their own cars) in the South of UK to carry out installation for about 1 hour’s labour.

You can register for this device and place yourself on the waiting list by contacting me via PM. I will carry out verification and then add you to a private group. Price and further details will be provided when you get in touch. The timescales for production to delivery is currently about 2 months as we need confirmed numbers before we can place a bulk order with the parts suppliers for production to begin.

NOTE: This a private DIY venture that was started by a couple of us Giulia owners to help other Alfisti here. This started off as a project to protect our own cars but we soon realised we could offer this to benefit others and have done so in the first batch of 60 cars.

Installation of this device will not interfere with any servicing or warranty work as we are not modifying anything in the car. This is a plug and play solution


It doesn't matter if you have Security Gateway Module (SGW) or not. This solution is totally independent of all other security, either manufacturer installed or aftermarket.
 

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As it should be. If thieves know about these devices, their usefulness is significantly reduced.
Surely it should be the other way around....if they know about it and how it prevents your car being stolen then they hopefully wont even try....if not what's to prevent them trying to steal you car and damaging it before they realise they cant nick it. Same way a big yellow steering lock deters more people than the factory one......they can see it will be difficult and noisy and move onto another.
 

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Its just one of many deterants one should have an a car like a Quad and is only aimed at one specific "hack" to steal the car.
The method they use leaves no damage but if they know about this they can find away around it.
Its a fine line between overt and covert security and I can see the arguement both ways but in this instance I think covert is the way to go.
At the end of the day the if the people stealing these cars want one all they need to do is follow you home, break into your house and threaten you and your family.
There is no such thing as 100% secure.
 

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I'm interested, Stelvio owner but unsure whether I have radar?? Is that the Forward Collision Detection feature which operates the brakes or something else I'm not aware of? Or lane changing warning or the proximity sensors that bleep when you get close to wall? I have all three... sorry to specific but there could be another feature I'm not aware of using radar..

Sorry, diidn't read the title properly.. CRUISE CONTROL.. I have the basic version not adaptive.. is this still a vulnerability?
 

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All Giulia's and Stelvio's have the radar for Forward Collision Warning and the consequent security weakness.
 
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I'm interested, Stelvio owner but unsure whether I have radar?? Is that the Forward Collision Detection feature which operates the brakes or something else I'm not aware of? Or lane changing warning or the proximity sensors that bleep when you get close to wall? I have all three... sorry to specific but there could be another feature I'm not aware of using radar..

Sorry, diidn't read the title properly.. CRUISE CONTROL.. I have the basic version not adaptive.. is this still a vulnerability?
All Giulias and Stelvio have radar, because all have FCW.
 

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Just a thought but searching ‘Giulia Security Flaw’ brings up this thread as the first hit, the first paragraph of the thread explains how the theft is done. Maybe this isn’t the best way to display this information? Not every who searches this will be looking for a fix after all. Not sure if there is a way of posting what you have without openly saying what the issue is. Not trying to be pessimistic but best to make it as difficult for them as possible!
 
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