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It has been confirmed that the revised giulietta will arrive about six months later than the compact cuv in late 2013 in the US. An awd option has been hinted at since the compact wide chassis has a provision for it. It will be a little wider and longer than the present car. I'll have to decide betwenn the cuv and the revised giulietta. The latest image of the cuv has the Kamal nose, exposed rear door handles and modified taillight panel. Basic styling is the same as the giulietta.
 

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New plan: Compact cuv-late 2013. Revised giulietta-spring 2014. Five door mito-same. Six month delays from original plan should be tolerable given the circumstances. The cuv's slightly higher ride height is just right for us old folks and we can make a QV out of it with the 2.4 liter chrysler and some tuning. :D :thumbs:
 

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It will be quite the spectical to see what indeed does happen with these models, and which year Alfa does go to the US.

Salute, Giordano.
 

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AR has turned it's sales 180 degrees and needs to keep it that way, but the continuing delays in the release of new models is going to hurt their pace.

Italiaspeed.com:

16.09.2011 ALFA ROMEO REVEALS URGENTLY NEEDED NEW MODELS PUSHED BACK OR CANCELLED
ALFA ROMEO 4C CONCEPT

According to the presentation, the low-volume, high-tech 4C Concept (above, being show in Frankfurt this week) will arrive in 2013, confirming the resetting of this target a couple of months ago. The slide also confirms that this will be the "first Alfa Romeo car re-entering the US market” – although with plans for the Stateside relaunch now ongoing for a decade, it remains to be seen if the 4C will make it across the Atlantic and into branded showrooms, or sold in the manner of the 8C Competizione.

UBS Auto Investor Conference, Frankfurt Motor Show IAA 2011 - Alfa Romeo

Alfa Romeo’s biggest problem is the lack of models arriving in the showrooms in the near future. Aside from the B-segment MiTo and a few run-out examples of the 159, the Giulietta will be on its own until the first of the brand’s new models arrives as scheduled in 18 months’ time – and this assumes the latest plan (above) is adhered to.

At the Frankfurt Motor Show the short-term future for the Alfa Romeo brand got even more bleak as a presentation held by senior management on the sidelines of the event revealed urgently-needed models have been pushed back even further – with the critical D-segment Giulia now scheduled for 2014.

In a join presentation made in conjunction with Chrysler Group’s Jeep brand at the UBS Auto Investor Conference, Fiat’s management tried to discover some synergies between the offroad division and Alfa Romeo. Using the pretext of global economic jitters, Alfa Romeo CEO Harald Wester was able to admit projects have been scaled back, or in the case of the planned D-segment SUV to be shared with Jeep, canned.

Alfa Romeo expects to sell 155,000 cars globally this year, up from 115,000 in 2009 and 2010, and 107,000 in 2008. Presenting sweeping changes to the 2010-2014 business plan, Fiat’s somewhat wild existing target of 500,000 Alfa Romeo sales a year by 2014 has been trimmed, but only to an equally optimistic 400,000 units.

For the immediate future, Alfa Romeo will have to continue to rely mainly on the C-segment Giulietta which is selling in-line with original targets. It currently has 23,000 outstanding orders and over 100,000 have now been registered since its launch in May 2010. Alfa Romeo expects the C-segment hatchback to meet this year’s target of 90-100,000 sales as pan-European sales make up for the peaking of domestic uptake. Significantly, the presentation claimed that 90 per cent of its sales are for high trim levels while the Giulietta has achieved a three per cent share of the European (EU27+EFTA) C-segment, the highest ever achieved by an Alfa Romeo model. The presentation didn’t offer any sales data or forecasts for the less successful MiTo.

One of Alfa Romeo’s problems has always been a lack of understanding of the brand by Fiat's top management which stems right back to its acquisition in 1986. Always unrealistic, pitching its products against BMW, Mercedes and Audi has continually doomed Alfa to hemorrhaging cash; in a small but hopeful hint that the penny has finally dropped, however, the presentation suggests that it will now be positioned as “near-premium”, as an “Italian brand with a strong commitment to advanced technology, performance and style, that will become a global competitor in near-premium segments within three years.” Alfa Romeo also says it plans to expand its dealership network outside Europe by around 30 percent by tapping into the capabilities Chrysler Group, joint ventures and external distributors.

Alfa Romeo’s biggest problem, however, is the lack of models arriving in the showrooms in the near future. Aside from the B-segment MiTo and a few run-out examples of the 159, the Giulietta will be on its own until the first of the brand’s new models arrives as scheduled in 18 months’ time – and this assumes the plan is adhered to. This latest slide presentation updates the global 2010-2014 business plan unveiled last April, and the simple message is ‘all change’. While many serious investors regard Fiat’s never-ending churn of business plans as barely worth the paper they are written on, the presentations at least offer some sort of timeline on the earliest possible dates that proposed models could arrive in the showrooms. With just two new models in the last five years, the proof is in the pudding, and the eternal swathe of new models that will join up the blanks in the sporty brand’s range always seem to remain stubbornly in the distance (in the case of this latest business plan, it also claims that by 2014 Alfa Romeo will cover 80 per cent of global market segments).

According to the presentation, the low-volume, high-tech 4C Concept will arrive in 2013, confirming the resetting of this target a couple of months ago. The slide also confirms that this will be the "first Alfa Romeo car re-entering the US market” – although with plans for the Stateside relaunch now ongoing for a decade, it remains to be seen if the 4C will make it across the Atlantic and into branded showrooms, or sold in the manner of the 8C Competizione.

Also pencilled in for early 2013 is the current MiTo’s mid-life facelift, while late in the year (meaning 2014 in Fiat terminology) will be the MiTo 5-door version, believed to be a new model, and engineered for the U.S. market. The final addition to the range in 2013 will be the C-SUV to be shared by Alfa Romeo and Jeep (for the latter it will replace its unloved Compass and Patriot twins). However, with work having not yet begun at Mirafiori and talk the project could in fact be shifted to the U.S., it remains to be seen if this target can be hit. Ostensibly, the reason for shifting production to the U.S. is due to currency fluctuations, but Fiat has put one of its usual wild targets on Alfa Romeo's uptake of the joint C-SUV and with Jeep likely to be able to absorb a much greater slice of overall production it makes a great deal more sense to build it in North America.

However, the biggest concern for Alfa Romeo is the disappearance of the D-segment Giulia sedan and its station wagon spin-off until 2014; last year’s business plan had earmarked an introduction in 2013. With sales of the incumbent 159 and Sportwagon having long since collapsed, by the time the replacement is introduced Alfa Romeo will have spent almost four years without a genuine contender in D-segment. With the MiTo 5-door unlikely to arrive before early 2014, it means that a U.S. relaunch isn’t likely to happen before 2014 at the earliest. Finally – in a touch of dark humour – the long-running saga of a future E-segment executive sedan (‘Alfa 169’) returns to an Alfa Romeo presentation – although in a slightly ironic touch, the image is seen hanging off the edge of the slide, largely summing up this vehicle’s prospects.
 

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Nice to see in that video that the Giulietta was well received & that the testers comments were largely in-line with how people in Europe/the UK and even on this site seem to view the car. I wasn't expecting them to 'get-it' (the car) as much as they did.

That's pretty much where the good news ends though - if the 159 replacement doesn't arrive till 2014 then Alfa's sales are gonna struggle with 400,000 per annum unless they have some sortof marketting brainwave that has never dawned on Fiat Group as far back as i can remember! They can't expect the MiTo & Giulietta to acheive these volumes on their own, especially not once they've been on the market for several years each.

Also, what is essentially a two-model line-up is gonna do nothing to attract new dealerships to come onboard - who's gonna want to open a showroom/franchise with only 2 models to sell? Im guessing Fiat will have to offer joint (ie Alfa/Chrysler, Alfa/Fiat, Alfa/Jeep) franchises in order to get anywhere on that? :confused:

Seems to me like they've bitten off more than they can chew with the Chrysler tie-up - i wouldn't want them to launch loads of half-baked rubbish just for the sake of having a segment of the market covered, but the way they (Fiat Group as a whole) keep pushing back model launches (Fiats own line up is looking abit 'eggs in one basket') is abit of a joke, even in the current economic climate. Seems to me they've got so much going on that something has had to give and in this case it seems to be the number of products.

Liam
 
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