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I am doing up and modifying my 146 1.6TS, a car we have had since new (1999). I'm completely stripping the car right back and where required buying new parts. Unfortunately I have come up with a big challenge, the 4 rubber bushes for the rear frame have deteriorated badly. I tried to get either the bushes or a complete frame from my local Alfa dealer and from Alfa-services.com in Germany who I find extremely helpful. Unfortunately the rubber bushes and also the whole frame including the bushes are not available. I wondered if anyone could give me some advice on a possible solution.
 

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Thanks for the quick reply. Unfortunately I'm new to using forums and I can't see the site name or link.
 

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Ah, I've just re-read your post, I would try dropping Powerflex, Superflex et al a quick email, if you can take accurate measurements I'd bet they could make you some poly-bushes to suit.
 

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apologies, it looks like I missed the link off, it should work now. It is a US site, but free delivery to Europe.

HTH
 

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That site doesn't list the rear sub-frame bushes anyway, which kind of proves Pepe's point.

I'm having the same problem with my 155... the bushes are bonded to the subframe and you can't replace them (so nobody makes "pattern parts" either).

I tried Powerflex but they just sent me a link to their "miscellaneous bushes" page which are just randon bushes (cylindrical or tubular) that completely misses the point. They're not really interested to make one-offs.

In any case the Alfa bushes (155 at least) has an inner metal webbing and metal end-caps pressed onto it.. Apart from the rubber/poly itself, you would also need to fabricate some metal parts.

I'm looking in Australia at the moment .. since they're a bit more "can do" about fabricating and making stuff but it's taking ages to make any progress.

The simplest option may be to try to find a second-hand sub-frame though they're all the same age as yours, so most will be equally knackered. You just have to hunt around in the meantime and see if you can find a pristine one somehow.

On the other hand, if you find someone who can make new bushes then let me know... I'll go to them for my '55 bushes too.


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im in exactly the same boat.

I have been speaking to Paul at Aforalfa about it. He suggested I take a look at the Fiat coupe forums, as apparently they use the same mounts/bushes. Apparently the guys on the FC forum had some metal bushes made up!

If you manage to source some let me know, I have been calling around the usual alfa parts places and apparently Alfa dont sell the bushes seperately, just the whole subframe and that costs £650!!
 

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There's a Polish guy on the E30 forum I frequent who manufactures polybushes... Initially if someone could get a picture of what they look like up on here I could drop him a message to see if he could do it.
 

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Fiat Coupe sub-frame is the same as the 155.. the part numbers are identical.. but I don't know about the 146. I think they'll be different.

I actually got hold of a pretty neat Fiat Coupe sub-frame (just some light surface rust compared to my falling to bits job... but the bushes had been cut out) :cry:


The pictures in the link look similar but not idential to my coupe sub-frame. My bushes sit inside a "cup" rather than poke out completely on the other side.. but I dunno if that frame is modified.


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Well ive been a busy bee!! I've managed to track down the subframe mounts from the Fiat Coupe Forum.

Heres a link to the guys I ordered it from. They could do a group buy if 10 or more of you are interested.

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I've made a few enquiries too.. and have a couple of prospective manufacturers.. but it all went quiet after I sent them drawings and they could see what a beast the bushes are.. :lol:

I'll chase them up so we can get a price comparison.. but yes, I'd be interested in a grope buy.. :D


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The standard bushes are made of rubber with ally inserts... replacement bushes tend to made from polyurethane.

I'll chase up the fella I found who reckons he can make some .. it'll be interesting to see how they deal with the metal insert on the larger bish.. which is quite a big bit of metal (albeit webbed, for lightness).


These are 155/Fiat Coope bushes we're talking about, is it? Even though we're in the 145/6 lounge.. :eek:

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Hi Ralf, I understand they are the same bushes across 145/6, 155 & Fiat Coupe, The Fiat Coupe specialist I bought them frim said he cross refererenced the part and its the same!

Look forward to getting them on the car, I cant drive the car that hard on the twisties as it feels quite wallowy, it certainly doesn't inspire confidence now!
 

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I would be interested in a couple of sets aswell. Not a clue on the condition of my project 145's bushes but at 147k miles i am guessing they will be a bit passed their best.
 

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The latest news from my contact is that they can make the bushes. :eek:

These will be 155/Fiat Coupe bushes which may or may not be the same as the bushes on the 145/6.

The Fiat Coupe and 155 uses the exact same subframe (I checked part numbers).. whereas the 145/6 sub-frame is different.. though having said that, the actual bushes might be the same (since they're not available separately there's no way to check part numbers).

I've got to measure up a couple of the dimensions for the fella.

In the meantime I'll get my 'arris underneath my 145 this weekend and check those bushes compared to the 155/Coupe, to see if they're the same. :thumbs:

The matey makes bushes from polyurethane with a simple metal insert, rather than the complicated standard arrangement.. but the poly' is stiffer than rubber :eek:,so theoretically it doesn't need the additional internal bracing the standard metal insert provides.

Once I have more news, I'll post it..


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great to hear , was gona buy new subframe for my 145 as it wont go thru another mot but id be up for a set of bushes if there gona be ordered poly ones will be much better
 
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