[SpeakForYou]

Need to get my car looking lovely incase I get to go to Hopetoun House on the 14th. I've bought some Dodo Juice Blue Velvet and want to put it on before but I've got Turtle Wax on atm so can I just put it on over it or am I better to take it off, polish the car then put it on?

 

[Bezste]

Personally, I would use a polish like Autoglym Super Resin Polish which will remove most of the Turtle Wax. Buff it up nicely then apply the DoDo Juice.

 

[springbok]

Since this product is a pure wax, with no cleaning abilities, there is no harm in applying it straight on top of what you have got.

It depends on when your car was last polished and what is the condition of the paintwork. If there are swirls, holograms and it needs some form of correction, then it is always preferable to clay, polish etc before applying the wax.

Being a fairly new car, I am assuming that the paint must be in good nick. BUT.....being a dark colour it does unfortunately show up defects.

 

[SpeakForYou]

Being a fairly new car, I am assuming that the paint must be in good nick. BUT.....being a dark colour it does unfortunately show up defects.

Yeah I know haha. It does have some swirls on it since the dealership had been washing it

I clayed the car in June, gave it a good polish then waxed. Still got plenty of AG SRP so will hopefully get it done next week while I'm off. Thanks for the replies :thumbs:

 

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If your using a dodo wax why no try some lime prime it's a much nicer product than srp IMO. Good polishing ability and some filling ability and the best base for your wax. If you have a machine to work it in even better :thumbs:

 

[SpeakForYou]

If your using a dodo wax why no try some lime prime it's a much nicer product than srp IMO. Good polishing ability and some filling ability and the best base for your wax. If you have a machine to work it in even better :thumbs:

mmmm I DO have most of my Birthday money My mother is honestly gonna kill you all for this. I've taken over half of the garage with stuff to clean my car haha.

Not got a machine yet, might invest in one in the future.

 

[Guest]

If your using a dodo wax why no try some lime prime it's a much nicer product than srp IMO. Good polishing ability and some filling ability and the best base for your wax. If you have a machine to work it in even better :thumbs:

Lime Prime has no filling capacity whatsoever, whereas SRP does.

You can use Lime Prime to remove what's already on, then SRP (which is more of a glaze) to "fill" then use the wax, but don't expect mitacles without a rotary.

The wax will only serve to highlight swirling and holograms, if not prepped corectly.

Wash, Clay, Rinse, Polish, Glaze, Seal then Wax.

 

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Lime Prime has no filling capacity whatsoever, whereas SRP does.

You can use Lime Prime to remove what's already on, then SRP (which is more of a glaze) to "fill" then use the wax, but don't expect mitacles without a rotary.

The wax will only serve to highlight swirling and holograms, if not prepped corectly.

Wash, Clay, Rinse, Polish, Glaze, Seal then Wax.

Lp will fill. If you ipa after you will see there is very obvious filling. I agree srp is better at it but it's no where near as nice to deal with and IMO and lp is a better base for a 'pure' wax

 

[Guest]

Lp will fill. If you ipa after you will see there is very obvious filling. I agree srp is better at it but it's no where near as nice to deal with and IMO and lp is a better base for a 'pure' wax

No it will not. It is a cleanser and removes old wax, it does not fill at all as a glaze will.

 

[gtlewi]

I agree with Matt, LP does fill. If not worked for long enough by machine I find it fills its own holograming, only for it to be revealed after an IPA wipedown

 

[Guest]

I agree with Matt, LP does fill. If not worked for long enough by machine I find it fills its own holograming, only for it to be revealed after an IPA wipedown

Lime Prime does not fill. In the following hyperlink, you will find confirmation (from Dodo Juice themselves) that it actually strips fillers;

Lime Prime Lite on SRP [Archive] - - Detailing World -

You will also see from this hyperlink (second last paragraph) that Lime Prime contains no fillers;

http://www.carcleaningguru.com/product-reviews/dodo-juice-lime-prime.php

You need to polish/cleanse (Lime Prime stage), glaze (SRP or Black Hole, etc, etc for filling light swirls), seal, then wax.

 

[gtlewi]

Right for a start just because a product has no specific fillers (such as silicone) does not mean that the oils and resins present will not have a filling effect. Lime prime is quite an oily product so this is what fills when used by machine or worked well by hand. It is something that Dodo juice acknowledge now but didn't when first released as they had not formulated it with filling in mind

 

[Guest]

Right for a start just because a product has no specific fillers (such as silicone) does not mean that the oils and resins present will not have a filling effect. Lime prime is quite an oily product so this is what fills when used by machine or worked well by hand. It is something that Dodo juice acknowledge now but didn't when first released as they had not formulated it with filling in mind

Rubbish. In that case, why not smear chip pan oil in and say that's a filler!

Cleansers "cleanse" and remove older deposits - they remove fillers and do not fill! Fillers "fill".

 

[gtlewi]

Read this thread from only a couple of weeks ago where the filling effect of lime prime was discussed by one of the most respected detailers in the country (davekg) and Dom from the Dodo Juice factory

http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=226414

see in particular this bit...
Dom "It needs to be remembered that ‘filling’ is an effect, not the action of a single ingredient. Oils, resins and waxes in many products will ‘fill’ the microscopic troughs on paint or clearcoat that appear as scratches or marring. Whilst a product may not have a specific or definitive filler in (Silicone Resin is a famous one in the industry, and SRP used to be known as Silicone Resin Polish before the name changed) the mere presence of waxes or oils can mask a true finish. When Lime Prime was first launched, many asked ‘does it fill’ and I would reply, ‘well, it doesn’t contain dedicated fillers, so I suppose not’ but how wrong was I? Lime Prime will fill as much as SRP in specific ‘filling’ tests we have done."

 

[Guest]

Right...a cleanser is now a filler!

Amazing!

 

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I think this is getting a bit out of hand. But to clarify no one is saying it is a filler, but like a polish it will fill. If you use lp with a heavy cut pad you will get great results, and then experience some drop back. A polish does not contain fillers, but the oils contained will fill. Lots of cleansers do the same, it's part and parcel of the oils contained weather or not thats their primary purpose

 

[Guest]

Out of hand.........no! More "interesting" than out of hand.

Polish doesnt fill either, it removes the sharp edges from scratches/swirling to leave a smooth finish. IPA 50/50 with distilled water is then generally spritzed to remove any polish residues - so there is nothing left on the clear coat. You then have a clean pallate to start again;

Glaze.........Seal..........Wax

 

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Out of hand.........no! More "interesting" than out of hand.

Polish doesnt fill either, it removes the sharp edges from scratches/swirling to leave a smooth finish. IPA 50/50 with distilled water is then generally spritzed to remove any polish residues - so there is nothing left on the clear coat. You then have a clean pallate to start again;

Glaze.........Seal..........Wax

Mate the ipa is used to remove the oils left that fill. The oils are used as lubricants but nearly always fill, hense the wipedown to reveal the true finish. Some water based polishes have a much less tendency to fill but an ipa wipedown is still advised. (or panel wipe).

 

[Guest]

Mate the ipa is used to remove the oils left that fill. The oils are used as lubricants but nearly always fill, hense the wipedown to reveal the true finish. Some water based polishes have a much less tendency to fill but an ipa wipedown is still advised. (or panel wipe).

IPA is used to remove ANY residue after polishing. I already know this.

 

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IPA is used to remove ANY residue after polishing. I already know this.

Then why is it you don't know what those things that you are removing do? Look I'm sorry I don't want to get into some kind of petty war or competition but I feel your posts are counter productive to the op's question and further discussion. You clearly are massively interested in detailing and are on detailing world, ask the questions there see what replies you get. You have people here, compulsive users of detailing world, bliss and paradise all saying one thing and you saying something else. You refuse to accept lime prime fills even though you have links to a discussion by the designer and producer who says it does? Maybe some of this thread can benefit you too? As a forum user surely you are here to learn too?