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Got the car back off the mechanic after he had it for four days to fit a cam belt and relating tensioners. The car was running when i got to the garage so i thought all was well, paid the man and went home, car seemed fine when driving. Pulled up at home and the engine was juddering on tick-over. So i went inside to call the mechanic, no answer! tried to start the car again and it wouldnt fire up. It tried to start but stalled its self straight away.

I am absolutly furious.

Has anyone else had this problem?
 

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Certainly sounds like bad timing.

Quite a few owners I believe have had this problem - look out for tipex marks around the pulleys this indicates the correct locking tools were not used.

Is he an Alfa specialist - if not there lies your problem :( Sorry to head it did not go well.
 
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he has changed your belt without the cam locks in place, you need to get your engine inspected but do not drive it or even start it up just in case the valves are touching the pistons.
 

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Hope you get it sorted ok. It's all easy to do, particularly if the quote is cheap, but using a non-specialist for timing belt changes is a guaranteed ticket to hell and damnation. The bank manager won't like you either (or is that the same thing?)
 

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my mechanic went to my house to look at the car whilest i was at work. he said that the car is fine and that it fired up first time on three occasions, no vibrating or anything.

im a bit confused.com
 

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my mechanic went to my house to look at the car whilest i was at work. he said that the car is fine and that it fired up first time on three occasions, no vibrating or anything.

im a bit confused.com

Sounds dodgy. I would be very wary of starting the car again, as previously mentioned. My best recommend in the North is PeakAlfa in the peak district, about an hours (nice) drive over snake pass from you- but google them and speak to Roger as I dont know if they can come out to you.

Other poeple recommend Alfatech in Huddersfield, and JJB Motors in York. Ive had mixed results from Turin Motors in Leeds, also mixed from Kershaws in York.
 

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Hope this doesn't sound too harsh on the mechanic,

But of course he is going to say it is fine, they can idle quite ok. Then suffer from the worst hesitation and poor power delivery once rolling.
 
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if you drive it against everyones advice and the pistons do smash into the valves and he is going to honour repairs then make sure you get the bottom end fixed as this will start to knock after a few thousand miles.
 

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Well like the man said "it sounds sweet"

I honestly dont think the pistons have touched the valves. If they had colided then the valves would be mis-shapen im sure and would probably stick open.

That takes us back to why it was shddering and failing to start over the weekend. it maybe a faulty fuel pump / rail / injector.

I would like to thank you all for your insight and advice on this matter and your genuine concern.
 

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Well like the man said "it sounds sweet"

I honestly dont think the pistons have touched the valves. If they had colided then the valves would be mis-shapen im sure and would probably stick open.

That takes us back to why it was shddering and failing to start over the weekend. it maybe a faulty fuel pump / rail / injector.

I would like to thank you all for your insight and advice on this matter and your genuine concern.

Hi Mate, I'm from Halifax too.... my 147 is due a cam belt change shortly, and obviously I want to avoid the same scenario.. I guess I should avoid this gge? are you happy to tell me which gge it was? I dont want to make the same mistake... tell me by PM if you dont want to name and shame...

While we're on the subject, doe anyone else know of anyone suitable in this area? I've heard good things about Alfatech in Huddersfield and Turin Motors in Leeds.

Any help would be grately appreciated.

Cheers,

Mick
 

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Alfatech are good, used them a few times. They're just next to the football stadium in Hudds.

The real expert is C.W.Lear at Keighley (nice drive over the windfarm....), not too far from you. He does tend to be booked-up regularly though.

If you want to get the timing work checked, either of them would be fine.
 

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timing issue?

Hi all,

I recently had a full cambelt service (plus water pump and stat) carried out on my GTV TS at a very reputable Alfa specialist. Since I've had the car back (about 3 days) it has been idling lower than it did previously and there is occasional belt squeal but not a massive amount and mostly just when on start up. The other thing is that on cold start up it sounds like it's going to stall and then just catches and fires up anyway.

Should I have any concerns? Would this suggest there is a problem with the timing?

Many thanks for all the useful info on the site. Couldn't own an Alfa without it!
 

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Hi all,

I recently had a full cambelt service (plus water pump and stat) carried out on my GTV TS at a very reputable Alfa specialist. Since I've had the car back (about 3 days) it has been idling lower than it did previously and there is occasional belt squeal but not a massive amount and mostly just when on start up. The other thing is that on cold start up it sounds like it's going to stall and then just catches and fires up anyway.

Should I have any concerns? Would this suggest there is a problem with the timing?

Many thanks for all the useful info on the site. Couldn't own an Alfa without it!
It could suggest the timing is out yes.

I would take it back and get them to look at it. If the injector light is coming on they may have disturbed the cam timing sensor behind the exhaust cam pulley.

I have heard of even Alfa specialists not using the cam locks if they are being lazy.
 

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Did he charge you for a replacement cam cover gasket, if not I'd doubt he has used the correct locking tools and I'd definitely not try and start it.
I hired my locking tools from my local motor factors, it really is lazy not to.
 
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