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Hi everyone.

I've always loved the GTV Aero and when I saw the price of this one I couldn't resist. Its my intention to make this one as minty as possible. I think its going to be a long journey.... :rolleyes:

Here's the story so far....

I picked up a Nuvola Blue 1999 GTV V6 Aero yesterday from a very snowy Welsh village and drove it all the way back to the Midlands. It was a heck of a journey because the windscreen washer had run out of water and we couldn't open the bonnet. I had to keep pulling over and cleaning the windscreen with handfulls of snow!

I got the car for a very good price and knew it wasn't going to be perfect but it was in a heck a state. The previous owner owned a Rotweiller (or similar) type of dog and the whole of the interior was covered in muddy doggy footprints, the car was about as messy as it could be and clearly neglected by its owner. However, as it was a good price and the engine seemed very sweet I could look past most of that. It also has a nice quad-effect (actually just a double) stainless exhaust which sounds great.

This morning I gave the interior a complete wash down followed by a good polish of all the plastics, leather and glass. Its looking much much better now but it needs a new centre console (armrest hinges broken and its generally really rough) and a new carpet or a very very good cleaning session.

I also washed the car down and the exterior (and wheels) are surprisingly good - just a few carpark dings I can hopefully get a dentman to do a repair on. There is also some untidy paintwork/touch up around the drivers keyhole - may need some more attention there...

I also eventually got the bonnet open so I could check the fluids (all fine) and the general condition of the engine bay (very corroded and mucky!)

I now have a few immediate issues to sort and I wonder if anyone could give me some hints and tips;

1) The V6 engine usually pulls very well and cleanly, however sometimes it hesitates. Any ideas?

2) The door glass doesn't seem to quite seal properly against the door rubbers. Is this common and does this mean new doors rubbers or is there a fix?

3) Any idea how much a new carpet would be and if they're even available still?

4) Its quite tricky to get into 5th gear occasionally. I've heard there is a nut that comes loose (mentioned in the buyers guide). Does anyone know anything about this or am I looking at a new selector mech?

My immediate priorities are to get the oil and filter changed (I'll be getting my local Tyre Sales branch to do that who charge £49 for Mobil 1 15w50 fully synth and filter) and then the cambelt/pulleys/tensioners etc... The cambelt was only changed 7k ago, but that was almost 3 years ago. Going by the very poor condition of the drivebelt I can see (alternator air-con etc) the cambelt must be very poor too (as well as the tensioners etc possibly).

I'd like this to be the start of a "restoration" thread that I update as I go along. I hope thats ok.

Any hints and tips would be greatly appreciated.

I'll try and put some pics on of the car as I collected it later..

Thanks everyone!

James :)
 

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1/ The hesitation could be the MAF or the sparkplugs.
2/ Poor fitting windows is common. You will need to remove the door cards and adjust them. there is a guide on here somewhere.
3/ Not sure about carpet. Try Autolusso for a good used one.
4/ Not sure, I was under the impression that a 6th gear fault was cured by the method you say.


I wouldn't get it filled with a 15w-50 oil as it is a bit thick when cold, I would use a 10w-40 semi or 5w-40 fully synthetic for regular driving, or a 10w-50 fully synthetic (like silkolene Pro S) if you drive hard.

The cambelt is recommended to be changed every 4 years or 48k on the V6, so you should be ok for another year IMO. Quite often the cambely twill be changed and the old auxillary belt put back on so thats not really an accurate guide to the age of the cambelt.

My auxillary belt was knackered as were the tensioners but my cambelt looks nearly new and has done 25k.
 
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perksy have you taken any pics b4 the cleaning started? it would have been good to see a b4 and after pic project.
 

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Cheers gents.

Yes, I've got some "before" pics from first thing this morning. I'll try and put them on here later.

Thanks for the tips on the cambelt and oil Symon - I'll get my mechanic (Motomech Italian car specialist in B'ham) to have a look at the condition of the cambelt etc first then before getting it changed. Its a £400 job so if I can at least delay it it would be great.

I've heard that "cambelt failure" is sometimes actually the pulleys/tensioners that guide the belt failing, leading to the cambelt de-railing and the engine being damaged. Is there a general concenus on this on the V6 Alfa I wonder. Does the belt or the tensioners fail first?

Also on the oil... Yes, if the 15w50 isn't that great I could definitely go for the 10w50 Silkolene Pro S. I love fully synth oil and the thicker the better.

Thanks everyone so far...

James
 

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The V6 is nowhere near as bad when it comes to snapping cambelts as the 2 litre variants.

The design of the tensioners. Plus the fact the cambelt doesn't drive the waterpump contribute to this.

Thicker oil isn't nessesarily better by the way. Mine is on a 5w-40 fully synthetic, and unless you drive hard in a hot climate there really isn't much need to go thicker as it can cause problems with reduced circulation.
 

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Cheers Symon.

Thats definitely good news about the cambelts then. I'll get Motormech to take the cover off and have a look (is there an easy way to inspect? - under the wheelarech maybe?). Its just that there's a noticable whirr (doesn't sound bad - just like mechanical parts moving if that makes sense) from the belts end of the engine.

I've used the Mobil 1 15w-50 for years in my three Fiat Coupe Turbos - it quietens the engine down no end and the engines took thousands of miles of abuse (track days, sprinting etc) and never missed a beat. So I'm quite keen on it. However, if its the opinion of the V6 crowd that it's too thick then I'm definitely going to listen.

Thanks - I'll get those "before" pics up in a minute...

James
 

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Sounds an interesting project, look forward to some pictures and more updates.

Do you mind me asking what a very good price is. The only reason I ask is I know how costs can mount and what can initally seems like a bargain quickly becomes less so.
 

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Seems a reasonable price if it's not too bad. If it's got 17" teledials they're worth about £500 with decent tyres - need pictures now.
 

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I think I'll keep my eye on this thread, welcome to the site hope you get the car the way you want it, it ain't easy to do but worth it in the end, any more questions you know we on here
 

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Apart from the dirt, that looks pretty good I would say. :thumbs:
 

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Thanks Symon.

Yes, as I was cleaning/scraping away the crud (and dog biscuits) I could actually find very little wrong. The seats need soaking in a few gallons of liquid leather but apart from that (and the disgusting carpet and damaged centre console) the interior is good.

Outside it also looks good and nothing a damn good professional polishing and a visit from the dentman wouldn't put right.

I had a budget in my head of about £1000 for initial major jobs but if the cambelt/tensioners are ok then maybe I could get away with less than that. Here's hoping....

James
 

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Thanks Bobcat78 - I have no idea what the button is for. Its wired up at the back. I think it is (or used to be) a power switch of some kind. It'll be removed when I fit the new gearshift surround and console.

Also - has anyone got any idea what brand the exhausts are? It looks a very neat job.

James
 

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Looks like a tidy little number in those pictures. Maybe get it booked in with a professional valet / detailer or whatever they call themselves for the full works, inside and out.
 

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i reckon you got a bargain there mate, noticed the gaffer tape on the flexi pipe, could be the cause of it hesitating??

how many miles as she done?
 

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Cheers all.

Yes I thought about a pro-valet but I think they'd want a fortune for sorting this one... and I don't mind. Its all part of the "fun". lol.

Well spoted rigsby - yes, they all seem to go there - its a part that needs replacing. The joint looks quite sound at first inspection but I'll be able to tell more when its off. Good thinking though. Hadn't thought of that.

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Good little project. ;)
you should bring it down to a westmidlands meet
 
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