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Hi All, sorry I'm sure there will be some raising of eyebrows but I'm not really a car person - although since buying my alfa I'm becoming one. Or trying to.

I need to fill up with oil, but which one? I'm trying to do my best by the car and give it the best possible treatment. However the oil indicator is very low (I thought this was fine up until noticing it this morning) so I don't want to drive it too far etc until I've topped it up. So just a normal/good oil will do for now and I will then get some alfa recommended specialist oil later.

Oh sorry. Alfa 946 Spider 2.2 petrol.

Actually on the above I've just had a thought, I have owned my alfa for about 3 months bought from and alfa dealership where they said it had been serviced. How often do I need to top up with oil?

Cheers, James.
 

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Since mixing or topping up with different oils is not a good idea, no one can tell what oil to use exept the person that did the last oil change- and that would be your dealership! Just to mention that longlife oils are affected if they are mixed with non longlife oils...
check your owners manual by the way and maybe it is mentioned there...
 

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Any Synthetic 5W40 oil will be fine.
The OEM is Selenia StAR, but all easily obtainable modern oils mix fine.
 

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And whatever you do please never, ever, ever, ever, ever let an Alfa run low on oil :eek:

The dashboard indicator is not entirely to be trusted either. Always use the dipstick ;)
 

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The petrols don't use oil unless there's a problem.

Any same grade oil will be fine but to monitor useage carefully.
 

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Could you advise on the 1.9 diesel oil - Angel warned me the hideous dpf can affect oil levels so must check and top up
The problem with DPF regens is Diesel getting into the sump and the level going up!
 

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The petrols don't use oil unless there's a problem.

Any same grade oil will be fine but to monitor useage carefully.
In fact, Alfa petrol engines do indeed use more oil than most cars.

My 2.2 JTS Spider owners manual advises that oil consumption up to 400g/1000km is normal. That's quite a bit compared with other cars I've owned, even big American V-8 powered SUVs.

Over the years I have owned a number of Honda automobiles and none of them ever required topping up between oil changes.

My Alfa doesn't use excessive oil, but it uses enough so that an inattentive owner could get in trouble by ignoring the oil quantity.

Cost isn't to be ignored either. Based on the cost of fuel and oil here in Italy, "normal" oil consumption will add roughly 5% to my fuel bill. By the way, I consider the electronic oil quantity indicator an interesting gimmick. I rely on the dip stick to tell me the truth.

Oddly enough, my Alfa owners recommends that I check my windshield wiper wear and coolant level every 1000km but it advises me to check oil level only every 3000km. Based on what Alfa considers "normal" consumption, that could easily put me 1.2 liters low between checks.

I don't like to operate any engine more than a liter low on oil, so I check my oil more frequently than every 3000km. I pay less attention to my windshield wiper wear though. Does that make me an irresponsible Alfa owner? :tut:
 

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My 2.2 Ti & both 3.2 Brera's have never used any oil, despite track days & European trips.

Same for my friends with the same engines in their cars.

Unlike our Busso which gets a perpetual oil change & my old TS's / JTS's:(
 

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While I appreicate every engine is different, I'd definately recommend checking the oil by the dipstick regularly. My 3.2 Brera used a considerable amount of oil without me foolishly checking manually (relying to much on the dash) and I now have a rather sick car.
 

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In 50,000 miles I have never needed an oil top up between changes on the 2.2JTS using Selenia Star/Shell Helix Ultra.
My previous 156 2.0TS used none between services over 72,000 miles using Halfords fully synthetic.
The 147 2.0TS(41,000 miles),which does a lot of short trips,uses half a litre of Selenia Racing per 3000 miles.
The Sud (123,000 miles) uses a litre of Shell Helix 15W/50 over 3000 miles.
All four were bought new and "run in"-contrary to present day practice.I don't leave oil in longer than 5000 miles.I dread to think of what it's cost over thirty odd years.....still,I've never had to replace any engine components in all that time,so I'll stick with it!
As a post script,the only cars I've owned that needed any engine work were a 1980 116 Giulietta 2.0 and an early 1.3 Alfa 33,both bought with high mileage and obviously neglected,as I found to my cost,resulting in two engine rebuilds.
 

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P.P.S Just ordered 5L Shell Helix Ultra from Opie Oils + a Bilt-Hamber Soft Clay bar for just over £41-free shipping with orders over £40 until Sunday!
 

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Cheers all. Brilliant responses. Luckily the garage I went to had a promotion running where you can text you REG and they say which oil would be best. Complete sales gimmick but it did help. Ended up getting Shell Helix Ultra 5-40 (so good shout Sir Baloney).

I did check the dipstick and it was really low, which now worries me. As I said I've only had it 2-3 months. I hadn't noticed the heads up saying it was low before. And it was purchased after a full service. So maybe an oil leak? But there's no oil on the driveway. I wonder if the recent cold spell could have anything to do with it.

I'm hoping it doesn't happen again otherwise it's back to the dealers. And I really don't want to prove right all my jealous (alfa's are trouble) friends.
 

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Cheers all. Brilliant responses. Luckily the garage I went to had a promotion running where you can text you REG and they say which oil would be best. Complete sales gimmick but it did help. Ended up getting Shell Helix Ultra 5-40 (so good shout Sir Baloney).

I did check the dipstick and it was really low, which now worries me. As I said I've only had it 2-3 months. I hadn't noticed the heads up saying it was low before. And it was purchased after a full service. So maybe an oil leak? But there's no oil on the driveway. I wonder if the recent cold spell could have anything to do with it.

I'm hoping it doesn't happen again otherwise it's back to the dealers. And I really don't want to prove right all my jealous (alfa's are trouble) friends.
What the dash says, does it also show that the oil level is low? Just as reminder that the best way to check oil is on flat surface and engine off at least 10 minutes.
 

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And just to say - even if they did a full service it doesn't mean to say they changed the oil, so it might not necessarily have been full when you bought.
 

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2 days now and the oil level has stayed the same.
Hopefully it's just me getting jittering and looking for problems.
 

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In fact, Alfa petrol engines do indeed use more oil than most cars.

My 2.2 JTS Spider owners manual advises that oil consumption up to 400g/1000km is normal. That's quite a bit compared with other cars I've owned, even big American V-8 powered SUVs.
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Most if not all manufacturers advise that the motor could use up to whatever amount on 1000km to safeguard them selves so that’s not only Alfa.

But that does not necessarily mean that the motor will use it.
None of my V6 Alfas from the 80's 12v to my previous 3.2 ever used oil.

I even had a couple of 2.0ts motors which are notorious for using oil and they did not need a fill up between 20 000km oil changes.

It is good practice no matter what you drive to check all fluids atleast once a week before you start the motor.:thumbs:
And always use good synthetic oil.
 

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As the oil indicator on the dash is going up and down on a daily basis I think it's time I became very friendly with my dipstick on a weekly basis.

I'd rather the dealer didn't tinker with an otherwise lovely running alfa!
 
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