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Hi all,

This is my first post here. I have a 98 S reg 156 V6 and am wondering what the sequence is to change the oil filter. I have been under the car and can just about reach up and get my hand on it. It looks to be virtually impossible to get the oil filter removal strap on it. Has anyone got any ideas

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Paul
 

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Its very hard to do. A bloomin nightmare to be precise.
Its one of the two things I wont do in my car (the other being the cam belt change). I love the fact that a dealer will charge you £30ish only to do it and feel thats good value for the difficulty of the job.

If you insist on doing it yourself you may need a different design of removal tool. The correct method also involves moving aircon pipes to one side, but you may have thin wrists?
 

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Hi fellow North Eastener. :)

There's a good independant Alfa specialist called F.A.S.T. just off Portrack Lane in Stockton that will be able to do an oil change for you.
 

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Hi,
Yes im from Stockton on Tees in sunny cleveland home of the UEFA cup :D
I know FAST they changed the clutch in my V6 soon after i bought it(£400) but they want about £130 for an oil service thats why i thought i would try it myself.
 

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I expect the £130 is because it is a complete ***** to change the oil filter on the V6.
It isn't an easy job, even for a garage with all the kit.
 

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As long as they do actually change the filter and not just spray it with brake cleaner and wipe it over to make it look like a new one...

Sadly it does happen!
 

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:eek:

In my case I have seen the blood and lost skin of the mechanics hands and the grumpy look he gives me. However it sounds like its a good idea to make a scratch on the filter paint before sending it in!
 

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Thanks for the replys, i think i will have another look under the car and see if i can get it off i dont mind losing a bit of skin off my knuckles if it saves me £130 (tight northener)
 

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you should change it when it is up to normal temperature.
and you WILL get oil down your arm...
 

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so its
1. lose some skin
2. get hot oil down my arm
3. make a mess on my drive (wife not pleased)
4. probably swear a lot (keep kids out of way)

what the hell it sounds like fun and at least i can say i done it
 

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On the 166, if you take the wheel arch liner off you can get much better access to it past the alternator. But its still a ***** even with our bigger engine bay!
You can try wrapping a plastic bag around the filter over the top to catch most of the oil or put a hole in the bottom with a screwdriver to drain the oil out first.
You can undo the filter just by hand but you need forearms like Popeye. I couldn't do it first time cos the tool at Alfa dealer had probably overtightend it. I just hand tightened my replacement and it came off fairly easily by handnext time. You can jam something in the drain hole you create to get some leverage.
 

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It's is the mother of all ball aches but it can be done. I can undo most oil filters by hand (mountain climber) but there just isn't enough room around it to get a decent grip. I unbolted the air con pipes front and back then pushed themout of the way. I then CAREFULLY tapped the filter around using a long screw driver in a chiselling type action on its rim. Worked a treat. ThenI dropped the filter into a plastic bag and squeezed it between the pipes. I have heard of people undoing the subframe to help get to it. Needs doing in a couple of months - I'll hang on until a while into the climbing season - get my forearms up to full strength first:lol: Then its me bright red face doing my SheRah impression.
 

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I finally attempted the oil filter change today and i must say that it was a piece of p**s after all the worrying. I went with daveg360 idea and moved the power steering/aircon pipes out of the way by undoing their retaining bracket and then forcing them apart (one foreward and one back) and the filter came out with not too much trouble. The bracket has two 10mm bolts you remove and then another 10mm nut to take off to split the braket and separate the pipes. Im as chuffed as ****. I would recommend the job to anyone with a V6 it aint that bad a job honest. I also did it with a cold engine (wot difference does it really make) and i didnt get any oil down my arm either and saved myself £130 quid as well
 

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I have done one of these too and it wasn't too bad, however I used one of those 3 pronged oil filter removal tools, that has a socket drive in the middle. The ones with the drive at the side just crush the filter in my experience as well as needing more space.
 

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I have never seen one of the 3 pronged type removers, my filter came off by hand and i suspect it has been the cause of the oil leak i have had recently (spots of oil on the drive) but i have only put it back on by hand as tight as i could physically turn it. Should it be any tighter
 
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