[triumph_alfa]

Firstly hello!

After much head-scratching and two Green Flag call-outs I'd appreciate your views.

My GTV (1997) ALWAYS starts-up fine with no issues when started at first in any given day. Battery is strong. HOWEVER, after completing the journey she ALWAYS fails to fire-up again unless left for 5+ hours.

The second Green Flag operative identified that no fuel was getting drawn through to the engine when turning the key.

At first, I thought it may be that I ran the fuel too low so topped it up by can. The engine then fired-up immediately on turning the key. However, this method no longer works and the tank is over half full. It has become too unreliable however, the issue is entirely predictable as outlined above.

Has anyone else experienced anything similar? I am soon taking it to a local Alfa specialist for diagnosis.

Thanks in advance for any input

Andy

 

[GTV-TB]

A coin on crankshaft sensor?

 

[spankdanny]

Yes does sound like crank sensor. Usually plays up when hot and cuts the engine. Let it cool down and all is good again.

 

[Andrew1961]

I had the same on my old 156. £17.00 later all fixed

 

[gp3000000]

On early GTVs there is an issue with a wire breaking somewhere between the underbonnet relay and the wire to the fuel pump.

On the two I've done the wire has broken between the underbonnet relay and the harness in the passenger footwell, meaning you can cut and join a new wire in here (passenger footwell to underbonnet, passing through the nearside scuttle), rather than stripping out the interior all the way back to the fuel pump.

If the crank sensor does not turn out to be the problem then it may be this.

 

[dirka]

check the relay of the fuel pump under bonnet

 

[triumph_alfa]

Guys thanks very much for the suggestions - will exhaust these options on the weekend and will let you know how I get on! Thanks again

 

[ken0062]

As a matter of interest how did the Green flag operative identify that no fuel was getting drawn to the engine, did he remove the fuel line or do a fuel pressure test or was it just a guess.
Like everyone else it sounds to me like crankshaft sensor, had the same problem with my old 156 but that would not explain the lack of fuel, you should be able to hear the fuel pump run for a few seconds when you switch the ignition on.

 

[EauRouge]

Another crank sensor bet here.

 

[triumph_alfa]

About to order the sensor chaps. Came across a VERY cheap part on eBay. Note the item location is China. Any experience buying parts like this? It's less than half the usual price! Cheers
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/300881665186

 

[sraouf]

Buy cheap buy twice. I really wouldnt recommend buying cheap copy parts that can potentially leave you stranded in a few months.

 

[spankdanny]

Don't do it. Alfa Workshop sell Facet ones for £40. It's what I bought and have had no problems for 3 years now. When fitting make sure it's in correctly, there should be an o ring on the old one so make sure that it's not stuck in the hole.

 

[triumph_alfa]

Thanks again guys. Will try and fit it myself first and will see how I get on.

 

[spankdanny]

It's hidden below the starter motor. Some people do it from above but I found it easier from underneath the car.

 

[triumph_alfa]

Hi guys. Saga continues. I got my local mechanic to fit a crank sensor whilst I was at work - he was unable to fit it as I apparently ordered a 2-pin sensor (however this is the one the website said I'd need?!).
Apparently the mechanic says its a 3-pin one I need and Alfa say it's 'obsolete'. Can anyone recommend a link to the one I actually require?
I guess it would be this one?
https://www.shop4parts.co.uk/?name=store&op=Details&ProdID=816&sku=31447
Many thanks.

 

[spankdanny]

You do need a 3 pin one but don't buy a no name sensor. Go to AlfaWorkshop website. They are not much more expensive.

 

[triumph_alfa]

You do need a 3 pin one but don't buy a no name sensor. Go to AlfaWorkshop website. They are not much more expensive.

Thanks mate!
Is this the one?
Cheers

 

[spankdanny]

Can't read it on my phone but if it says CF1 and 3 pin then yes.

 

[triumph_alfa]

Can't read it on my phone but if it says CF1 and 3 pin then yes.

ordered! was 1 in stock! thank you

 

[Desame]

ordered! was 1 in stock! thank you

And the result is????