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OK, I took the advice from AO and booked in my 156TS SW 1.6 in to ***** workshop (despite living in Reading!). Everywhere else was 600-800 for a full cambelt service but they have an offer for 380!!!!!!!!!

They are incredibly nice, knowledgeable also (so much in fact they make you feel abit uncomfortable!! :rolleyes: ).

Anyway, I have jsut bought mine and was thinking of also getting a noise on the braking looked at. Sometimes when I brake there is a slight bang underneath which is felt a little through the pedal. Almost feels like the ABS is kicking in but only happens once. As I said I am new to the car so this maybe normal and is fine if it is I am just wandering if its worth inviting the mech to have a look (worried about creating a costly problem!). The other thing is that the suspension seems a little hard on the front end? Could they be related as well? Is this normal?

cheers and may I say this is great forum! :thumbs:
 

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No just that ***** is the incorrect spelling ... :)
 

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The noise could be the brake pads moving in the calipers or something is loose. There are different pads for some models. You're 1.6 probably has solid front discs and so it might be someone has fitted vented-disc pads by mistake. Also check the wheel bolts.

Another problem with 156's is the lower suspension arms have very soft mountings and if overtightened they can strip the threads. I've had a bolt come loose because of this and the GTA was subject to a recall for something similar. Could also be worn bushes in the upper arms, rollbar, etc. You probably ought to get someone to have a look.

Suspension is quite firm on all 156's as their sporty nature requires ;)
 

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I have just found an advisory from a mech and it says

Both front a/r/ bar rubber mountings detoriated.

Could this be the rubber mountings on the suspension you mentioned would this make a noise as described above?
 

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I have just found an advisory from a mech and it says

Both front a/r/ bar rubber mountings detoriated.

Could this be the rubber mountings on the suspension you mentioned would this make a noise as described above?
Its possible. They tend to make more of a squeak when hitting a pot hole though as opposed to a knock when braking.

However, it's also worht having the upper wishbones checked. There a fairly common part to fail - or at least the bushes are. I have just replaced mine and it's made a huge difference.

Another thing to consider which Gazza's post reminded me about is to check the bolt that holds the upper wishbone plate (which is bolted to the body) to the upper wishone arm (that has the ball joint attached) is tight. It's the long 17mm (I think) bolt that runs through the upper wishbone bushes. If this comes loose you'll get a knocking feeling when braking or turning lock to lock as it puts load on the suspension. It's pretty easy to check. If you grab hold of the upper wishbone next to the ball joint and give it a good shove - if there's any sign of movement then it is likely to be this bolt.

I only found this out from experience over the weekend when I replaced mine and found I hadnt tightened this bolt sufficiently. Now I have and it's perfect.
 

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Hmmmm I assume you have to get underneath the car for these checks, furthermore I have only done minor engine work myself (replaced HT leads and changed plugs!) so don't really understand the jargon too well.

Is this a quick easy job for a specialist?? Maybe he can squeeze it into the quote he provided to change the Cambelt???
 

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It's dead easy.

1 - Remove front wheel
2 - Follow the Shock Absorber (strut) up to it's top where it meets with the inner wing.
3 - Coming back down from the strut is an alloy wishbone. It's in two parts. The top part (upper wishbone mount) is bolted to the inner wing at the same place as where the strut meets the inner wing. In theory it cant move - but if it has any movement then the nuts are accessed from inside the engine compartment. There are 4 nuts - the two outer ones secure the upper wish bone - the two inner ones secure the strut.
4 - Attached to the upper wishbone mount via a long bolt that runs horizontally (it's approx 6 inch long) is the upper wishbone swing arm. The swing arm and the mount are held together with this 6 inch bolt and this is where the 2 rubber bushes which tend to fail are located. The swing arm is the alloy triangular part that has a ball joint at one end.
5 - Grab the upper wishbone swing arm and give it a decent shove (make sure the cars on axle stands - not just on the jack!!).
6 - If there's any play then you need two spanners (17mm) one for either end of the 6 inch bolt. Put one on each end of the 6 inch bolt and tighten. Dont over tighten as the bolts as you dont want to strip the threads. That said using muscle power is unlikely to strip them - it's when the garages use pnumatic guns that usually does that!

I dont know the history of your car, but from experience to date I have replaced the drop links, the track rod ends (common cause of squeaks), the upper wishbones (another common cause of squeaks and knocks) and the lower wishbones (***** of a job).

All parts are readily available (eb spares or shop4parts).

That said - if your not confident/useful with a set of spanners then find yourself a decent indy!

Good luck :)
 

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Well Well Well Some shocking turn ups

It seems that the knocking noise was the fact that the anti roll bar underneath was completley detoriated to nothing and also the P**ck before took the car to a complete idiot/criminal/illegal immigrant and installed the wrong plugs and destroyed the variator.

Total price: £760! (Cambelt service £380, new plugs £94, new variator£90, new anti-rollbar £200).

I have never known of such an tight fisted idiot as the previous owner of this one. Thankfully the car is in better hands now and will look after it (like my rescue dog!).
 
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