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i also read this, and i'll be watching this one closely.

the Titanic - 'it'll never sink!'

Mercedes - make a small FWD? Never!

Alfa diesel? Never!

Porsche SUV? Never!

Toyota, the world's largest car manufacturer? Never!

Renault in bed with Nissan? Never!

Jaguar sold to India? Never!

A 4x4 hatchback Ferrari? Never!

I find Ferrari's 'never!' stance on electric interesting. In the last 25 years, Ferrari has been receptive and keen to adopt and pioneer new thinking and new technology. I know a high-revving petrol engine is core to Ferrari's DNA (hence why it dismisses diesel; not for the power, but the revvy response), but if petrol engines do decline (big if, granted) and Ferrari doesn't adopt alternative fuels, will Ferrari's arrogance be its demise? Enzo Ferrari would probably say 'yes', then ask you to leave for asking such an insulting question. But I've come to expect a more considered response to the future from today's 'new age' Ferrari.
 

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Can see Ferrari back-flipping on this. Especially if other "Supercar" marques head down this path in the future.

Personally, I don't see the point in buying a Ferrari sans a "fire and brimstone" soundtrack. Who wants stealth when you can have searing sound.

To borrow a Clarksonism, "It would be like watching a porn film for its plot".
 

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Electric motors are idiotic. It's a completely different dynamic to what we're used to. If anything, Ferrari will probably refine that hydrogen thing that BMW did with the hydrogen 7 or whatever it was called. The key to that was that it was still a normal engine which used petrol, but could switch to using hydrogen. It wasn't like that honda clarity, where the hydrogen charges an electric motor, but instead hydrogen combustion, which made the engine behave exactly the same as a petrol, only that it produced steam from the exhaust. I mean, yes, the fuel consumption wasn't great (about 5 MPG), but who would buy a Ferrari for fuel consumption??

Methinks that BMW's take on using hydrogen is much more feasible, because the engine characteristics are the same (you still rev the engine and change gear, whereas an electric engine is completely different). Also, the car BMW made had the same power output whether it was on petrol or hydrogen. If petrol does run out (urban myth, IMO, created by ecomentalists because they have nothing better to do...), this would be the perfect alternative.
 

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Hey, I'm no environmentalist and the figures have no doubt been exaggerated, but oil is a finite resource, so it's got to run out and some point.
Agreed, but considering the diameter of the earth and the current depth at which the industry extracts crude oil, we have tapped perhaps a fraction of the total amount in the earth, giving us maybe 100 more years of industry if we keep expanding at the current rate (which we won't given that many companies are researching into alternative, sustainable fuels).

I'm also not an environmentalist and I loath when someone uses "global warming" as a reason for switching to alternative fuels (the average temperature was both much higher and much lower in the history of the earth, such as during the ice age, and the earth managed to soldier on regardless). However, I do see the point in things like hydrogen power as I understand that CO2 emissions are unhealthy to organisms, and for this reason, I would support hydrogen power.

I realize this is quite off topic, but I want to make sure I don't sound like an idiot...
 
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Solution: Ban DERV from private use.


Anyone wanting to use diesel (read: get better economy) should be forced to go on public
transport. Or drive an electric car instead.

That should make the resources stretch a bit longer.

:thumbs: :D:D:D
 

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No it's not.

There's no spark. Therefore it's Devilry.


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There doesn't need to be a spark, it still combusts inside, so it's still an internal combustion engine!
I hate them too though, for the record.

Hey, I'm no environmentalist and the figures have no doubt been exaggerated, but oil is a finite resource, so it's got to run out and some point.
Not really. Oil can be produced. Granted I have no working knowledge of how much energy it takes etc but it can be. Coal, apparently, takes millions of years of squishing dead organisms to form. Well, I beg to differ from that lie, as does the research institute in Florida (iirc) that made a lump of coal by squashing dead plants, in about 35 minutes.
 
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