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And. What does your external temp sensor read? If it's reading wrong the air con won't work.

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Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't the flashing odometer mean the car needs a proxy reset. This was the case for 147 and GT.

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Correct, MES calls it a Proxy re-alignment, it may be something has been added to the Canbus that wasn't part of the original car or something has died
 

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I did contact them and they were fairly willing to help. They said to take it to any garage I know to have a look and if it is something worse going on to let them (dealer) know and to take care of it. I ll take it to some ac specialists nearby me over the weekend and have them check the ac and have a look at the bluetooth as well. I live in Kettering by the way.

This is the "weird" wire.

I appreciate your advices.
I would take it back to the dealer you bought it from, if you use anyone else and inform them of it you may be waiving their obligation to supply something fit for purpose. The flashing mileage indicator will require more than disconnecting the battery to reset it. It will require some sort of software to perform a reset, and an EOBD scanner will not reset that as it can usually only clear MIL light errors. If you still have no joy from the dealer I might be able to help you next weekend as in 9 days away as I have the software to do the checks.

The weird wire? That is the exact same route my dashcam power supply goes so I think as others have already said it will probably end with a micro usb plug at some point near the mirror.
 

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Looks like they have tapped into the 12v cigarette socket to run a dashcam rather than feeding a fuse tap from the fuse box.

Can you take a picture of the 12v cigarette socket? Interested how they have wired it up.

Or is it just a plug that goes into the socket?
It just plugs into the socket. It has the standard type 12V connector.

Looks like a dash cam lead as well. Just tuck it away and forget about it. Take it back to the dealer with the list of faults, give them 1 chance to fix them then reject it.

What G is it, age, mileage, price?
2011, 2.0 140HP, Diesel, 120K, 2500GBP

It’s a 2011 car. When I was 47 years old I bought a new 2011 Giulietta.
I’m now 55 so I don’t think that car is “new”!
Obviously in this context "new" was meant to imply new in possession to me. I am under no disillusion of the car's age.

And. What does your external temp sensor read? If it's reading wrong the air con won't work.

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Seems to give more or less the expected ambient temperatures during various points of the day.

I would take it back to the dealer you bought it from, if you use anyone else and inform them of it you may be waiving their obligation to supply something fit for purpose. The flashing mileage indicator will require more than disconnecting the battery to reset it. It will require some sort of software to perform a reset, and an EOBD scanner will not reset that as it can usually only clear MIL light errors. If you still have no joy from the dealer I might be able to help you next weekend as in 9 days away as I have the software to do the checks.

The weird wire? That is the exact same route my dashcam power supply goes so I think as others have already said it will probably end with a micro usb plug at some point near the mirror.
I've been in contact with the dealer through e-mail and I have in writing his "advice" to seek my own garage or someone he can refer me to, to have the car checked out. In theory that should be ok, right?
 

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Well it looks like a proxy reset is the first task.
Then unless you can get the seller involved in repairs I'd be tempted to just enjoy the car as it is.

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It just plugs into the socket. It has the standard type 12V connector.



2011, 2.0 140HP, Diesel, 120K, 2500GBP



Obviously in this context "new" was meant to imply new in possession to me. I am under no disillusion of the car's age.



Seems to give more or less the expected ambient temperatures during various points of the day.



I've been in contact with the dealer through e-mail and I have in writing his "advice" to seek my own garage or someone he can refer me to, to have the car checked out. In theory that should be ok, right?
And has he put in writing that he will reimburse any costs that you may incur? You are responsible for paying for any work you commission with the garage you take it to. Just be careful is it a proper Alfa dealer?
 

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And has he put in writing that he will reimburse any costs that you may incur? You are responsible for paying for any work you commission with the garage you take it to. Just be careful is it a proper Alfa dealer?
He is a standard car dealer, doesn't specialize in alfas if that's what you meant.
Obviously if something is busted I won't go around paying for stuff and THEN get them to act on it. I ll give them the quote of what is expected to cost and then the ball is in their court.
 

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He is a standard car dealer, doesn't specialize in alfas if that's what you meant.
Obviously if something is busted I won't go around paying for stuff and THEN get them to act on it. I ll give them the quote of what is expected to cost and then the ball is in their court.
Sorry, just worried you might be left with an unfair bill, sounds like you have things in place to cover it, let us now how you get on. I can still plug in to your car if needed next weekend?
 

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Sorry, just worried you might be left with an unfair bill, sounds like you have things in place to cover it, let us now how you get on. I can still plug in to your car if needed next weekend?


No need to be sorry man, I appreciate your help and concern. I intend to take it over the weekend once I get some free time from work to some ac guys to have it checked out and check the blue&me issue if it is something their workshop can also do. If I don't have anything figured by the next weekend your help would indeed be handy but I 'd feel kinda bad for taking your time especially on a weekend. Do you live nearby?
 

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I'm in Lincolnshire but am spending a lot of time in Warwickshire so could pop in on the way. You are in Kettering right?
 

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I'm in Lincolnshire but am spending a lot of time in Warwickshire so could pop in on the way. You are in Kettering right?
Yeah I am, that's kind of you thanks but hopefully I ll have things figured out by then.. Or close to it.

By the way I noticed underneath one of the car seats one of those buttons that are from the dash (that control auto start/stop, fog lights etc) that probably was broken and came off. All 5 of them are present on the dashboard, I was wondering is there any other place that a similar button exists that could relate to (if not then I guess one of the main ones broken on the dashboard and was subsequently replaced but the faulty one was just not dumped off very far)
 

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Yeah I am, that's kind of you thanks but hopefully I ll have things figured out by then.. Or close to it.

By the way I noticed underneath one of the car seats one of those buttons that are from the dash (that control auto start/stop, fog lights etc) that probably was broken and came off. All 5 of them are present on the dashboard, I was wondering is there any other place that a similar button exists that could relate to (if not then I guess one of the main ones broken on the dashboard and was subsequently replaced but the faulty one was just not dumped off very far)
I don't know of any other locations for those sort of switches so I think it's just been missed by the repairer when they were replaced.
 

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I don't know of any other locations for those sort of switches so I think it's just been missed by the repairer when they were replaced.
Ah, good. Because as soon as I saw it I was like bloody hell, I hope there's not a button somewhere now that I can't use. I am still in the process of trying to rectify the dashboard glove compartment which's been a bit of a pain in the ass. The "tooth" like hinge doesn't "exist" so it stays up, for now I've got it taped down but obviously it is not a pretty solution, neither practical. I was thinking of using some custom magnets or hinges but the inside is sloped so it might not be that easy to align everything. Found some compartments for like 80 pounds on ebay/amazon but it might be a bit excessive. I thought of just removing its springs so it just stays down (which I can still open manually and use) but I am not even sure if those would be accessible. I've tried to search some online spare parts sites and see if I can get any results.

Also in related news I followed that cable all the way through and indeed it must 've been used for a dashcam based on where it was going. One puzzle at least out of the way.
 

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HELP!!!
I got up today to go to work. Start the car, warnings galore... Power steering error, hill assisy error, vdc error.. tried to move and yes power steering not working. Small heart attack settling in. Switched it off. Back on again and it was back to normal.

What the hell was that all about? An incidental thing or an omen of terrible things to come?????
 

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All of those errors will come up if the battery has been disconnected. They could also appear if the battery isn’t very good; these cars are very sensitive to failing batteries.
 

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Low battery?
It could have been on the dealer forecourt a while and batteries never recover from going flat.
Sounds an example with some issues you got there but once the niggles are fixed it’ll be good, I’m sure.
 

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Something that could be related. There's only one place in my daily commute that sometimes the start and stop system works. At one specific set of traffic lights for whatever reason. At some other instances it comes up as a start/stop unavailable. Could that be because it wants to stop but can't which could relate to an additional hint being something wrong with the battery?
 

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From my 10000 hours of research into the stop/start issue on the Giulietta (Joking haha)!!! Ive come to the conclusion its very hit and miss. My 2014 is on the original battery, is 100% perfect and within voltage but stop/start has not worked since I bought the car. Its a very poor system if you ask me. Mine is a diesel so not sure if the petrol suffers the same.

A bad ground could cause the issue, check for a loose negative on the battery terminal, could be corroded or on its way out. Maybe try a multimeter and check the voltage and again when cranking if you can, maybe a dud battery.
 

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After 18 months of ownership and around 18k miles my start-stop is now pretty reliable. As far as I know I’m on the original battery and in the past it has needed to be charged at home a couple of times - not because it wouldn’t start, just because s-s didn’t work. The battery must be at least 80% charged for s-s to work.
A couple of weeks ago I did a 350 mile round trip in one day, and since then it’s been perfect. Before that it was very hit and miss, stopping for a few seconds if at all or just giving the ‘unavailable’ message. I put it down to a good long run clearing out the dpf etc and charging the battery. We’ll see how long that lasts.
The Giulietta is well known for not tolerating discharged batteries - there are many threads covering it - so I would either charge it or replace it before going looking for other faulty components.
The HDC/hill holder/steering errors all come up when the battery has been disconnected, and there is a procedure in the manual to cater for this, including resetting the window switch stops.
 
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