[bradpit999]

Just interested if anyone has information on companys doing me a new carpet, after 17 years of use i dont think any amount of cleaning will get it much better and there is wear in some places, and being PH1 all used are likely similar condition

i want a custom made interior of just the carpet, and idea of costs anywhere between £600- £1200 i think but its something on my intermediate upgrades as with last years respray and headlining the new carpets is another tick in the box to make it appear more new than it actually is

 

[krisp]

Modern car carpets are moulded to shape. The form of a Ph1 GTV cannot be easily replicated without a high cost on tooling.
Footwell mats can be made but the rest is a no go area.

 

[Matt GTV]

Can a Ph2 carpet be modified? There's loads of them in decent nick.

 

[krisp]

There are detail differences at the front. At the rear the arm rest / cubby would have to be used. I am not sure how this would work with the rear of the centre console by the handbrake. It would be a lot of work I think.

 

[Matt GTV]

Yep, there is a (vital) bit missing on a Ph2 behind the handbrake.

 

[pkr]

Also, you need to carefully cut a hole for the fuel cutoff in the driver's footwell and transfer the removed piece across to the passenger side.

 

[bradpit999]

when restoring cars then do they use cut / shaped individual carpet parts rather than a 1 piece molding ??

i believe PH2 mod it out the question for the reasons above and again is likely to be 10 yrs old so wouldn't be my option

I have seen these car programs where this sort of thing gets done i though

 

[Mr_Caine]

Have you tried the main dealers to see if this something that can be bought?

 

[bradpit999]

i was not even able to find a NEW GTV badge recently, to be honest not tried i thought the chances were even more remote

 

[Rich_wookey]

Try Partsworld-UK Official Suppliers for Abarth Fiat Alfa Romeo + More, They have an eBay shop http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_s...LF&_trksid=m194&ssPageName=STRK:MEFSRCHX:SRCH,

I bought a Beige Ph1 Carpet from them about 3 years ago, and I saw at least two others for sale on eBay since then. but none listed now, so best to ring them 01246 388700 to see if they have any

Rich

Edit: They have a Front badge for £10.89 at the moment: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Brand-new...434776?hash=item3efc36fe18:g:LVgAAOxy7vJTcjWf

 

[CGTVs]

Also, you need to carefully cut a hole for the fuel cutoff in the driver's footwell and transfer the removed piece across to the passenger side.

.....or fit a matching 'dummy' fuel cut off on the passenger side. It looks factory & no one notices.

Clive

 

[krisp]

Restoring an old car from the 50s or 60s can just about be executed using edged carpets, in the same way as footwell mats. 70s on moulded carpets really became the norm and the tooling became expensive.
If you try cut and shut it may well look amateur and certainly will look un-original.
It is your choice, but I certainly would not attempt it.

 

[alfapash]

Is it worth phoning a few breakers to see if they have carpets that are in reasonable condition, you'd be surprized how carpets can be revived from professional cleaning. What colour are you looking for?

 

[bradpit999]

i am after Red interior, After the Respray it now means worst cosmetics are on interior so was hoping the new carpet to take it even further to the new car look.


I will try the dealers long shot but worth a punt

i am going to discount any used ones as its PH1 so its 15 yrs or so old and cant be much better than mine

 

[pkr]

I was intrigued as to how the carpets are made ( primarily by the manufacturer ) and I found this video -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvGRsM5Z2P8

It really doesn't look complicated.

Start off with a GTV shell being broken and use the floor to make the mould. You'd then need the oven to heat the carpet and a supplier for the carpets in the correct colours and pile type.

There's no need to go complex. Once the carpet is moulded, you have a one size fits all solution. Just mark cutting lines on the back of the carpet for the Spider and also cutting lines for RHD/LHD and Phase 1 and Phase 2/3. Let the customer do the cutting for their car.

Could be a nice part time business for someone. Start up costs are the oven and making the mould/press and a sewing machine for the heel mat. The only really difficult part is sourcing the carpet with the correct pile and in the correct colours and the heel mat of the correct shape. The carpet edges don't need to be sewn as they are never on view.

 

[krisp]

There is a plastic of sort sort in the carpet. The heat softens and moulds it to shape.
The thickness of OE grade carpets needs large presses to exert the force and withstand the temperature.
The video was of an accessory supplier, not an OE standard manufacturer.
The tooling is more complex and adjusting a floor pan to get the carpet profile is a huge effort for a one off, never mind making a female mould to match.
It is not an easy thing to get right especially without design data.
I have been in an OE carpet factory.

 

[Corkyd10]

i am after Red interior, After the Respray it now means worst cosmetics are on interior so was hoping the new carpet to take it even further to the new car look.


I will try the dealers long shot but worth a punt

i am going to discount any used ones as its PH1 so its 15 yrs or so old and cant be much better than mine

I should be in possession of a spare phase one red carpet soon...
How would you describe yours? What's the problem with it?

 

[alfapash]

I was intrigued as to how the carpets are made ( primarily by the manufacturer ) and I found this video -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvGRsM5Z2P8

It really doesn't look complicated.

Start off with a GTV shell being broken and use the floor to make the mould. You'd then need the oven to heat the carpet and a supplier for the carpets in the correct colours and pile type.

There's no need to go complex. Once the carpet is moulded, you have a one size fits all solution. Just mark cutting lines on the back of the carpet for the Spider and also cutting lines for RHD/LHD and Phase 1 and Phase 2/3. Let the customer do the cutting for their car.

Could be a nice part time business for someone. Start up costs are the oven and making the mould/press and a sewing machine for the heel mat. The only really difficult part is sourcing the carpet with the correct pile and in the correct colours and the heel mat of the correct shape. The carpet edges don't need to be sewn as they are never on view.

It's not complicated in itself, however, the cost of setting up a business of this type is more than you think, a unit of sorts, the oven / heat box, the press and 2 different sewing machines, each one over £1000. I worked for a high end furniture maker for my 5 year upholstery apprenticeship before setting up on my own, although different, many of the processes overlap, some of the chairs we made were molded chairs with a fixed or a swivel base, the designs were complicated and we used large heat boxes for the fabric which had special backings which were manufactured to allow the fabric to be moulded into shape, the fabric was often of a loose weave with some stretch or vinyl. We made hundreds of these type of chairs. Car carpets have a specialist backing allowing for the heat/moulding to shape, so that would have to be sourced. and normally large amounts purchased, not a few metres. How many old car owners are looking for new carpets, a few. Unfortuantely I don't think it would be viable.