[Il Diavolo]

My 2000 156 V6 has become redundant, my wife and I no longer have a need for two cars. It's due for a cam belt change this year under the 5 year rule although it's only done 16k miles since the last renewal. It's close to having done 120k all together.

There are a number of other items which need money spent on them, two new rear tyres for a start and probably a new rear silencer box, judging by the horse's tail of fibres coming out of the exhaust pipe!

There are also a few niggling failures that we've been putting up with for some time but which could probably be sorted with effort rather than much cash, such as the heater hot/cold air mixer flap, currently bodged with a manual lever, neither of the rear windows will work and the sun roof has a problem with sliding open although it will tilt ok. There is a slight oil leak from the sump/block joint which the local indie thinks is a slightly corroded locating dowel.

On the plus side it had a new MOT in December 2017 and as far as I (and the local garage which did the MOT) can see there is very little corrosion.

I imagine that the value of the car is less than the cost of replacing the cam belt but it seems a great pity just to scrap it. The car is a joy to drive, sometimes I think I prefer driving it to my GT but then I'll get in the GT and decide I was wrong!

What to do? Keeping it is not an option. It has to go before the road tax and insurance are due in a couple of months.

Has anybody any suggestions?

 

[JON156VELOCE]

Post some pictures, these are becoming rare now and I think a future classic so would be a shame to scap it.

 

[TaffMGF]

I'm currently looking for one of these. Can you give me an idea of how much you want for this £250 car?

 

[115686]

A working V6 with a years ticket has got to be worth £500, even with a cambelt due. 2 years ago, eBay was full of these, but all the half decent ones have gone.

 

[Il Diavolo]

Hi TaffMGF

rxe reckons it's worth £500

I'm sure there's a deal we could agree on if you're serious. Can you send me a PM?

Il Diavolo

 

[115686]

Well I bought V6 with 3 months ticket that needed a cambelt, and a shed load of welding for £200. If yours really is clean underneath then it must be worth more...!

 

[Shimmerydolmeo]

I paid 325 for a 90k example, clean bodywork externally but rusty floorpans, no ticket and unknown cambelt.

If yours has no rust and almost 1yr MOT then I think 750-1k would be reasonable.

Personally I don't advise selling now- prices are at their lowest and going up. Busso love is growing.

 

[JON156VELOCE]

Good to hear its going to be saved, if I had somewhere to park it up I'd have it.

 

[Il Diavolo]

Thanks for your responses, people. it seems to be worth something. I'll take some pics and advertise it in the Classifieds section in a couple of days, "156 going cheap......" etc.. If that fails I might give eBay a go.

Il Diavolo

 

[Unclejam]

Not Ebay!

Thanks for your responses, people. it seems to be worth something. I'll take some pics and advertise it in the Classifieds section in a couple of days, "156 going cheap......" etc.. If that fails I might give eBay a go.

Il Diavolo

I bought a ‘98 156 V6 with mot, 82k miles and some rust already fixed up 12 months ago for 900 quid, although it did have some nice bits on it to be fair. As “rxe” says - serious rust is the killer, as most people dont want to pay huge amounts to have this fixed, usually a long and fiddly job. The little mechanical failures like sunroof etc can be sorted in time and are not MOT critical, so more acceptable to any future owner.

They are definitely going up in value now though, so dont advertise it on Ebay - thats where cheapskates like me go to find undervalued cars :rofl:
Advertise it on www.carandclassic.co.uk. You’ll sell it quicker and you wont get timewasters. I’d say £795 as it is, or renew the cambelt and sell it for £1200.

 

[Pud237]

Better to sell it cheap with the cambelt due than pay for cambelt and increase the price - in my opinion. A lot of Alfa enthusiasts are very wary of garages they don't know (often with good reason) and so they would want their specialist of choice to change the cambelt regardless of cambelt history. People often bring Alfas to me and want the cambelts changing, despite service records indicating they'd been done recently. But its more about them ensuring they've been done properly. Once bitten, twice shy and all that

 

[Unclejam]

Better to sell it cheap with the cambelt due than pay for cambelt and increase the price - in my opinion. A lot of Alfa enthusiasts are very wary of garages they don't know (often with good reason) and so they would want their specialist of choice to change the cambelt regardless of cambelt history. People often bring Alfas to me and want the cambelts changing, despite service records indicating they'd been done recently. But its more about them ensuring they've been done properly. Once bitten, twice shy and all that

Of course! My next post was going to be to recommend that he take it to Autolusso for this job naturally! :rofl:

 

[Shimmerydolmeo]

Can't wait to get my 2.5 MOT'd, cambelted and up and running. I've given up on the idea of a 20v turbo conversion, just too costly and can't justify it while saving for a house!

 

[Pud237]

Can't wait to get my 2.5 MOT'd, cambelted and up and running. I've given up on the idea of a 20v turbo conversion, just too costly and can't justify it while saving for a house!

I've not worked out the wiring on mine yet, but it might not be hugely expensive. If it doesn't end up being too complicated to wire in, then it could be possible to do the conversion in a week. But yeah, while saving for a house it doesn't really make sense to spend a fortune on cars. I ran an 8v JTD as a daily for a couple of years while paying off the money we borrowed as deposit on a house. You're doing well to still be running around in a 156 V6 while saving!

 

[Shimmerydolmeo]

I've not worked out the wiring on mine yet, but it might not be hugely expensive. If it doesn't end up being too complicated to wire in, then it could be possible to do the conversion in a week. But yeah, while saving for a house it doesn't really make sense to spend a fortune on cars. I ran an 8v JTD as a daily for a couple of years while paying off the money we borrowed as deposit on a house. You're doing well to still be running around in a 156 V6 while saving!

The GT3.2 has done about 5k in 2 years, my 1.8 156 is my daily driver. My rationale for switching to the 2.5 is really that it doesn't make sense pouring money into the 1.8 when it's value isn't going to climb. 2.5v6's are becoming rare. I can always pop a 3.0 in there later on, once ive got her sorted. Fuel may be an issue though.

 

[Unclejam]

The GT3.2 has done about 5k in 2 years, my 1.8 156 is my daily driver. My rationale for switching to the 2.5 is really that it doesn't make sense pouring money into the 1.8 when it's value isn't going to climb. 2.5v6's are becoming rare. I can always pop a 3.0 in there later on, once ive got her sorted. Fuel may be an issue though.

Surely putting a Fiat engine in your 2.5 will make it worth less than your 1.8?? :surprised:
Or have I got the wrong end of the stick?

 

[Pud237]

Surely putting a Fiat engine in your 2.5 will make it worth less than your 1.8?? :surprised:
Or have I got the wrong end of the stick?

The 1.8 should be the one to get the 20v turbo lump, for sure. If the 2.5 ever needs an engine (it probably won't!) then 3.0 or 3.2 makes a lot more sense, its no harder to fit one of those than it is to replace the 2.5 with another 2.5.

 

[TaffMGF]

Hi TaffMGF

rxe reckons it's worth £500

I'm sure there's a deal we could agree on if you're serious. Can you send me a PM?

Il Diavolo

rxe it probably right, mate, I was being a bit tongue in cheek!

FWIW, just before I saw yours advertised, I agreed to buy a speedwagon V6 with a 4-year old cambelt, moody brakes and no MoT for £300. I haevnt' actually seen it yet (Ive bought it off a trusted mate, and he was going to advertise it for £500. £300 is what he gave for it two years ago) and I suspect it will need a tickle with the mig-wand at that price.

 

[Shimmerydolmeo]

Surely putting a Fiat engine in your 2.5 will make it worth less than your 1.8?? :surprised:
Or have I got the wrong end of the stick?

What dan said. The original plan was to put a 20vT engine in the 1.8, as I'm very attached to her. But it will cost lots and has lots of unknowns (risky for a daily runner). So I have a 2.5v6 which I will MOT and then transfer brakes, suspension and interior from my 1.8.

 

[Il Diavolo]

rxe it probably right, mate, I was being a bit tongue in cheek!

FWIW, just before I saw yours advertised, I agreed to buy a speedwagon V6 with a 4-year old cambelt, moody brakes and no MoT for £300. I haevnt' actually seen it yet (Ive bought it off a trusted mate, and he was going to advertise it for £500. £300 is what he gave for it two years ago) and I suspect it will need a tickle with the mig-wand at that price.

Best of luck with your Speedwagon!
I would probably have let mine go for around the £250, a quick, no hassle sale being worth at least a couple of hundred to save me the rigmarole of advertising etc.