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As far as I know, there is no criminal law concerning pedestrians. (If there is, I'd better give myself up). However, if there's a civil case which needs to apportion blame, then they'd take into account the Highway Code as well as the circumstances of the event.
 

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There is a crossing near my house, which the local authority maintain is correct, which doesn't turn red if there is a car nearby. You can press the button because there's traffic, wait for it to clear, cross, and be halfway up the street before you hear it beeping.
 

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When turning right & a car is trying to do the same on the opposite side, why oh why do people cross in front of each other? All this achieves is no one can see the oncoming traffic so cannot complete the sequence. Cross each other behind the other car & evreyone ca see the oncoming traffic & cturn safely! I try to signal this to people when it happens to me but a blank stare ensues??
 

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Because of exactly what yopu described. You require collusion from the other motorist to cross behind each other - and you can't trust that to happen.

I totally agree that the cross behind is more sensible. But in real world conditions, you can't do it because the chances are you'd just cause an accident.
 

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More of a weary sigh than a rant, as people stopping across my drive is a several-times-a-day occurrence. But today was a Sunday, no other parked cars, no possible reason to stop across a drive. I was backing out when a white van man decided to stop, overlapping the drive just enough to prevent me escaping until his small daughter had made his delivery for him.
 

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When turning right & a car is trying to do the same on the opposite side, why oh why do people cross in front of each other? All this achieves is no one can see the oncoming traffic so cannot complete the sequence. Cross each other behind the other car & evreyone ca see the oncoming traffic & cturn safely! I try to signal this to people when it happens to me but a blank stare ensues??
Because of exactly what yopu described. You require collusion from the other motorist to cross behind each other - and you can't trust that to happen.

I totally agree that the cross behind is more sensible. But in real world conditions, you can't do it because the chances are you'd just cause an accident.
There are now many junctions on the East Lancs (A580) dual carriageway from Manchester to Liverpool whereby the roads that cross it have markings forcing drivers to pass offside to offside when turning onto the A580. It should be the first choice because we pass offside to offside but oddly it is not.
 

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Tailgaters.....I really want to slam on the brakes......but then I have the hassle of being rear ended.

I just want to let them pass me.....then meet them again further on down the road and give them a good hiding. :mad:

Audi TT this time....coont.
 

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From Robert Allen Sterzoman's album, Bringing it All Back Home

Hey! Mister Road Repair Man, spare a thought for me
I’ve an Alfa but there is no place I’m going to
Hey! You’ve made it hard to drive about now, don’t you see
On the speed bumps and the road humps I am cursing you

Hey! Mister Road Repair Man, won’t you get a grip
Pinchpoint kerbs and zigzag lines are Hell to drive through
Take me on a trip upon your magic rumble strip
And Mister Road Repair Man, listen to me cursing you
 

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3 lane motorway....I am in inside.......medium slow van in middle lane.....but I am in no hurry......4x4 Volvo comes speeding past me in middle lane and sits right up the van's hole.....starts flashing at him....no movement.....the outside lane is totally clear......volvo then moves into outside lane,overtakes.......and I thought volvo would then speed on....but no......pulls straight back into middle lane......and slows up.......why ??
Just relax chaps ffs
 

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Aaaargh! A curse on all roofers!

Not King William Roofers, but Roofers the Red Nosed Builders. OK, so they put roofs over our heads, but why do they scatter nails and screws all over the road? Every house extension project (of which there is a plague at present) results in punctures. They got my 156, my Mondeo, and now my Giulietta. A cross-headed number eight screw this time. And the offending object is always brand new, never a rusty old one. At least I'll be able to use it on my next DiY project.
 

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Had a short jaunt on the M6 again today, just down from junction 19 to 17. 4 lane motorway all the way. At one point I passed a conservative estimate of 50 cars over a distance of several miles by simply staying in lane 1 at about 70mph.
The majority of those cars weren't even in lane 2, they were in lane 3 with nothing beside them.
 

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Had a short jaunt on the M6 again today, just down from junction 19 to 17. 4 lane motorway all the way. At one point I passed a conservative estimate of 50 cars over a distance of several miles by simply staying in lane 1 at about 70mph.
The majority of those cars weren't even in lane 2, they were in lane 3 with nothing beside them.
It does seem to have become the new norm and I can't fathom out why it's become such a frequent phenomena., despite there being such publicity about how it is now an offence, and how much it is disliked by normal drivers!! I'm honestly totally bemused by it.

I've even stopped downloading from my dashcam because it's just become the norm on my way to- and during- work...I was on the way to a job on an empty M61 a couple of weeks ago. No need for blues as it was deserted in the early hours. I was in lane 1 and caught up with a lone Nissan Juke, travelling at about 60mph, in the 2nd lane. Instead of just letting it go, I got to about 20 yards of her and put the blues on and then pulled behind her in lane 2. She initially refused to move, but I persisted and she eventually saw sense and moved to Lane 1. By the looks of it, she stayed there, at least until we were out of sight...
 

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Stan, That's really annoying. Middle lane cockwombles are my biggest annoyance. That just fuelled it a little more.
 

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Until you have driven along an Italian two lane Autostrada with five rows of traffic on it you ain't lived. We were on a section of road with no road markings due to recent resurfacing and counted five vehicles across the width of the road. It was like looking at a swarm of bees. And another thing. Being overtaken on an Autostrada by a car in the fast lane which just, just, just, about manages to get past you, engine screaming in order to exit the motorway via a slip road to the right that you are both in the process of passing and cutting in so close across the front of you they almost take a coat of paint off your front bumper. Ask why the couldn't just stay behind and exit the road at leisure and it would simply be Un-Italian.
 

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Being overtaken on an Autostrada by a car in the fast lane which just, just, just, about manages to get past you, engine screaming or order to exit the motorway via a slip road to the left that you are both in the process of passing and cutting in so close across the front of you they almost take a coat of paint off your front bumper.
I'm ashamed to say I did something similar to that on the M60 a few months back. The worst bit of driving I have perpetrated in a decade, I just completely and utterly misjudged every closing rate involved (as well as the lane 2 car I was overtaking, there were others taking the exit which he was overtaking), and then reacted poorly to the situation I had created myself.
Once I realised that it was going to require some hefty breaking to take the exit I should have just missed it and gone to the next, but in the moment I took the wrong decision and braked hard to take it. I didn't actually cut up the person I had just overtaken, as in your example. But the heavy braking having just overtaken someone was a terrible decision on my part.

Still, a mistake made is a lesson learned, even for an old giffer like me.
 

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I have all the time in the world for someone who having buggered, up admits their mistake and learns from it. We all make miscalculations and if the gods are smiling we live to fight another day. I know that I have been forgiven my sins in the past. The trick is to learn and heed the lessons. The truly poor drivers are the ones who fail to recognise their mistakes and continue on the same course. Next time you are exiting the motorway I'm certain you will see the situation through different eyes following your honest appraisel and will be all the safer for it as will other road users.
 
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