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Well after fitting the newly welded sump. I've managed to do 200 miles before the clutch gave out.
Well least I believe it to be the clutch.

No drive in any gears. No noise etc. Noticed the slave on the 166 is above the gearbox so that's easy to check.

Can you change the 166 clutch in situ as the engine bay is quite large?
I imagine the clutch is specific to the 166 given it has a dual mass flywheel.

Anyone replaced a clutch on a 166 that's able to give advice.

So far this 166 is the most unreliable car I've ever owned.
 

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Its okay my 147 went through countless parts and engines before I got it right. Seems its the same wuth this Alfa.

Managed to order a valeo clutch for a half decent price. Just need to fit the bugger.
 

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Valeo clutch purchased from eurocarparts at 138. Not a bad price. But its all in the fitting.

Should be fun... only fitted clutches when the engines out....
 

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Valeo clutch purchased from eurocarparts at 138. Not a bad price. But its all in the fitting.

Should be fun... only fitted clutches when the engines out....
Hi Scotty, I've been following your 166 posts. When she is sorted, you'll forgive her...

My clutch died last week. Was going to get a Valeo from www.shop4parts.co.uk, for £112 but decide do hand it over to the very capable Alfa Auto in Sparkhill/Sparkbook. If you need their number please PM or text.
 

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I've just done mine in situ, quite doable in the end. I also change the flywheel. I'll get on and write the guide I was thinking of doing...

Sorry I didn't see which engine you have?
 

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2.0 twinspark. So its just the little one :-(

Didn't even realise there was an auto specialist there.
May I ask how much they charged?
 

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£330 all in. I also had the starter motor changed whilst it was there.
 

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Supply and Fit right? Pretty good price. Although I'd need to tow the car there. I might give them a call and save myself the skinned hands!

Would you recommend them?
How recently was this?
 

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Supply and Fit right? Pretty good price. Although I'd need to tow the car there. I might give them a call and save myself the skinned hands!

Would you recommend them?
How recently was this?
AA dropped her off Tuesday and I picked her up Wednesday. Yes, I would recommend them. They also did my full cambelt change service last year - but I think I'd like you to help me do the GTV belts ........didn't get round to it last year
 

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Eek that might be over due.

Solid flywheel would be nice Dan. But wouldn't I need a whole host of items to get it to fit. Its the same clutch as the 1.9 I think. But the gearbox is clearly the ts model. Im sure id then need other parts to get it to work.
 

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166 2.0 TS gearbox is a 5 speed very similar to the one found in the 147/156 1.9 JTD 8v and 2.4 10v. Its a pull clutch arrangement the same as the V6.

See what your DMF is like - if its knackered then going SMF will be the cheaper solution. But if your DMF is OK then just fitting a clutch will be cheaper than an SMF & appropriate sprung clutch kit.
 

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Mines actually the 6 speed box in the ts as itsa facelift .

However as you say its a pull clutch I believe. Well the gearbox secondary slave is on top of the box. I know this as I bleed the arrangement prior to it all failing whilst I completed the work on the sump.

All a bit disappointing so far as ive done less than 1000 miles in the damn car.

Still ill get there though. Hopefully.
 

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Any hints on how to check the dmf. Its quite simple on a smf. But no idea on a dmf. Was always my worry with dmf arrangements. I've never been a fan. Esp on a petrol where the vibration to the box is minimum anyway.

saying that the 6 speed I feel is a bit pointless too. 5 speed would have been fine. Instead the 6 speed is grand prix short with the ratios.

Least the gear change is tight as a drum mind.
 

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6 speed is essentially the same as a 5speed just with a longer gear casing to hold the extra cogs.
 

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Is that all thats needed though. The different clutch and flywheel. Plus a different actuator for the clutch?!? Ie changing the slave type.

I've decided due to the weather to have the car recovered and dropped it of at alfa auto to have the work completed.

Hopefully it'll be okay. Half decent price as listed above.

Also getting the slight crack in tbe exhaust welded up as well.

Then hopefully all I need to do is the wheel bearing and the cambelt later on in the year.

Once that's done I hope to get a few cheaper years out of it. But anything is a guess really.
 
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Clutch done and fitted and my poor bank balance is a bit lighter for it.
Almost as light as the clutch pedal. Really hope it lasts the rest of the life of the car though.

Original clutch by the look of it lasted 162k. Friction pad looked alright. The pressure plate failed.
 

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Dmf isn't perfect or new. But as long as it lasts a couple years ill be happy. So never had it changed.

Worse case if it lasts a year and it goes ill look at swapping out it a single fly conversion.

But had to pay for this as ive needed the car and can't keep using the motor bike.
And its been raining alot so I chickened out on doing it myself.

All I need now is the front wheel bearing donethen I can look at the cambelt later on in the year which should be childs play on the 166 give all that space .

Slowly getting it up to spec. Might be all okay by the time ive sunk a few quid into it.

There really is no cheap alfa...

still least the lpg conversion was off the old car and ill save a few pennies on fuel 1200 per year over petrol and 700 over a diesel. So I shouldn't moan too much.

As long as it lasts...
 
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