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hi guys,need to get the door panel off. removed all the bolts, still doesnt want to move ! any ideas cheers.:confused:
 

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There are IIRC correctly 11 trim clips around the periphery of the panel, gap between the panel and sheet metal is around 1 mm there is a special tool to make the job easy but a strong wide (ish) plastic blade with a longish handle should do the trick, gently lever each out of its hole in the door sheet metal. See if I can post a photo of positions
 

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I meant to make a howto post about this but never got around to it..

off the top of my head:
  • Remove the small cover at the back of the inner door handle (the one that opens the door) and unbolt (allen bolt) the bolt inside
  • Remove the cover off the door handle (the one that you grab to close the door) and unbolt the two (i think) bolts - I ended up buying a replacement for this as I think it is impossible to get off without breaking two of the clips on it (£8 from Autolusso)
  • Remove the two screws by the door latch (on the side of the door)
  • Remove the small cover up by the door mirror
  • The cover is now only held on by all the clips - they run from the mirror down and along the bottom and are a pain
  • The cover is also 'hooked' over the top of the door and into the window gap
I started by unhooking the top of the door card and then working my way down the hinge edge with a lever - suggest a platic one as I definately marked the paint in a couple of places

GK
 

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Got some images, but photo bucket is playing up as its only the free version, anyway off cutting and pasting direct to the thread?
 

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Nice post Gatekeeper - handy as i need to replace my wing mirror this weekend!

Lambrate - use imgur.com, much better than photobucket for general hosting :thumbs:
 

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This could be useful for when i change my door speakers :)
 

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Thanks Muzikdon, here we are not that clear but
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if the pin is around 10 dia at the base its probably fiat ref 55253. As stated earlier panel hooks over door inner panel in glass channel
 

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Its a door panel, not at all difficult. The white bracket is holding the sample part up on a display stand, not included with the Mito.
 

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I assume people have done this to swap speakers around and/or add sound proofing. If so do the speakers need any adapters to fit or will standard 16.5/17cm components fit straight in? Secondly what is the best way to get at my tweeters and similarly do they require an adapter?

Was thinking or replacing mine with these and adding some sound deadening to the doors to stop them vibrating and am too tight to pay someone to do what seems a relatively simple job.
 

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i had my door speakers replaced with pioneer components by an ice specialist, they said they had to use adaptors because the fixing holes on the new speakers didn't line up, luckily for me they had already given me a quote for the job so they didn't charge me the tenner the adaptor plates cost :)
 

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ahhh cool I suspected it wouldn't be as simple as pop them in (never is). I'm also planning on upgrading to pioneer components. These in fact. or possibly some nice Hertz ones I've seen also. Would it be the adapters for the 147 he used?

Do you know how he dealt with the tweeters by any chance? And in the event I decide to be lazy (this happens far too often) may i ask how much replacing the speakers set you back? If I'm being too nosey tell me to sod off.
 

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i've got pioneer ts-e 170i door speakers fitted, i think the ones that you are looking at may be the newer version of mine, you won't be disappointed with the sound, its brilliant :) the ice people i used were dynamic sounds in wandsworth south london, they took one and a half hours to fit the speakers but only charged me for an hours labour (60 pounds) as that was their earlier quote, i think they used the existing wiring, the tweeter covers are prised from the 'a' pillar with a tiny screwdriver, then they are held in with small screws, i found it cheaper to pay someone who knows what they are doing and having the job done properly by a professional put my mind at ease
 

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Question about door panel removal: How does the interior door handle fit in to all of this? It must surely be attached to some device/cables, so how much of a problem does this cause with regards to removing the door card?

The instructions above posted by GateKeeper sound very straight-forward....apart from not mentioning the handle itself, and the electric window buttons on the door!

I want to try and reduce the road-noise in the car, and there are a few areas when I can work on this, but as the doors act as an amplifier for road noise I thought I'd start here.

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The mechanism for the door latch is simple:
Its a sleeved metal pull (like a bicycle brake cable) with a cranked end ( sorta S-shaped with 90° corners) fixed to the cable;
unhook door card
pull outer termination (think its a yellow plastic molding) away from the back of the handle
manipulate cable so the cranked end slips out of the mechanism

The electric window switches and under door light are both on plugs but they are a pain to get off, I think you have to lift the metal locking cir-clip up and then they slide off but I cant remember clearly. It was fairly clear once you got the old eye ball on it.

GK
 

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Advice much appreciated, so thank you for your time!

Will keep the thread posted on how well it goes, but probably won't be tackling this for another week or so.

I can see the future...and it involves a lot of swearing, many cuts, some broken plastic, and much regret
 

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Advice much appreciated, so thank you for your time!

Will keep the thread posted on how well it goes, but probably won't be tackling this for another week or so.

I can see the future...and it involves a lot of swearing, many cuts, some broken plastic, and much regret
Sounds like a Saturday to me :confused:

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I meant to make a howto post about this but never got around to it..

off the top of my head:
  • Remove the small cover at the back of the inner door handle (the one that opens the door) and unbolt (allen bolt) the bolt inside
  • Remove the cover off the door handle (the one that you grab to close the door) and unbolt the two (i think) bolts - I ended up buying a replacement for this as I think it is impossible to get off without breaking two of the clips on it (£8 from Autolusso)
  • Remove the two screws by the door latch (on the side of the door)
  • Remove the small cover up by the door mirror
  • The cover is now only held on by all the clips - they run from the mirror down and along the bottom and are a pain
  • The cover is also 'hooked' over the top of the door and into the window gap
I started by unhooking the top of the door card and then working my way down the hinge edge with a lever - suggest a platic one as I definately marked the paint in a couple of places

GK
I have added some photos.
 

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