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Hi guys,

Recently took the plunge and bought an Alfa 159 1.9JTD Lusso. Unfortunately on my way home from picking up the car the CEL came on stating "Have engine checked”. I visited the dealer yesterday and they plugged an OBD reader in and cleared the codes saying if they come back on get back in touch <img src="http://www.alfaowner.com/Forum/images/smilies/frown.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Frown" class="inlineimg" /> Anyway, i decided to purchase MES and have a look myself as i knew something was up with the car and it wasn't a fault that would clear by it's self.

I have found the following errors in MES

P0504 – Brake Pedal Switch (Not causing CEL, stored)
P0101 – Airflow Meter Signal (Looks like the Airflow meter is faulty with 2 seperate errors)
P0111 – Airflow Meter Air Temperature Signal
P0401 – EGR Valve (Now this has come up as a FATAL error which is concerning me, should I still be driving this car?)
B1001 – Steering Lock/Unlock. (Not causing CEL, stored)


Can anyone give me any advice, would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you
 

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EGR valve issues are common but although it says fatal error is not going to cause major problems with the engine.

However, if it has the later black plastic inlet manifold and still has its swirl flaps then this is a particularly major potential disaster waiting to happen.

I suggest you search for the posts on the forum about power loss for diesels and swirl flaps and have a read. It will inform you about the potential issues with these engines.
 

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EGR valve issues are common but although it says fatal error is not going to cause major problems with the engine.

However, if it has the later black plastic inlet manifold and still has its swirl flaps then this is a particularly major potential disaster waiting to happen.

I suggest you search for the posts on the forum about power loss for diesels and swirl flaps and have a read. It will inform you about the potential issues with these engines.

Thank you for your reply. The car is an 07 plate. There was another code on their reader which they cleared, but it hasn’t shown on MES. Code was P2015
 

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That’s swirl flap related, I would be getting that car back to them ASAP to sort out as you don’t want the flaps being ingested.

also needs brake light switch,EGR clean at very least and possibly a MAF if wiring checks out ok.
 

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That’s swirl flap related, I would be getting that car back to them ASAP to sort out as you don’t want the flaps being ingested.

also needs brake light switch,EGR clean at very least and possibly a MAF if wiring checks out ok.
I have spoke with them and they have said i can take it in next week to diagnose. Will let you know how I get on.
 
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Ended up getting a refund from the dealer. Time to look for another
Wow! That's unusual for a dealer to give a refund. Did they put up much of a fight?

Plenty of diesels out there, might be better to spend a bit more and go for a 2.0 as I hear these are a lot more reliable.
 

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Easy these days. My wife bought VW Eos last year....nothing but trouble...and leaks...lots of leaks (unusually for me I did not do much research...if I had I would never bought it). Anyway we said it had too many faults....he came and collected it next day with cheque in hand. He was a small back street dealer too The new laws that came into effect last year give customers much more rights...so you can pretty much get your cash back for any reason you like in the first month or so. Which is great for customers...not so good for retailers (like me...caravans these days) as the less scrupulous customers use this to their advantage. They don't have to prove there is a fault...I have to prove there wasn't one when they collected....which is just about impossible so we don't fight it because the courts ALWAYS take the side of the punter...whether he's right or not. So a customer might "buy" a caravan, use it for two weeks holiday...then reject it for a few spurious reasons. Did he every plan to keep it...no?...try proving it. What really annoys me is that we don't build them but since we sold it the buck stops with us. The manufacturers who built the faulty product just have to pay for repairs....not for any any other costs or the depreciation of the now second hand or one more owner caravan. Rant over! So if you buy a car from a dealer (main or not), it has a fault (or it does not have a fault and you just don't like it!) just tell them and take it back (or lie about what's wrong...them take it back!). If the dealer has any sense he won't fight it. If you bought it privately...tough!
 

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Ended up getting a refund from the dealer. Time to look for another
Wow! That's unusual for a dealer to give a refund. Did they put up much of a fight?

Plenty of diesels out there, might be better to spend a bit more and go for a 2.0 as I hear these are a lot more reliable.
I emailed them with all the faults MES brought up and they offered a refund pretty much straight away. These faults were obviously there when the car was on the forecourt though and from a dealers perspective you would of sorted them before you sold the car surely. Must be headache to take a car back from a customer with the V5 etc.
 
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