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Maserati 4200 - Delighted

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Took a drive in a manual Maserati 4200 last week with skyhook (late 04 model) and not quite sure how to say it, but I was a little disappointed.

It looks beautiful inside and out, but I didn't get that "tingle" feeling I used to get when first jumping into a GTV V6 or my old TVR. Not entirely sure what it was, I think it just isn't quite sharp enough, didn't make enough noise from it's lovely4.2 V8 (can be cured with a third party unit) and felt oddly more like my Brera but a little more dim witted.

The interior feels better built and more durable than my friends old 3200, the power delivery is impressive and the manual box (tested when warm) was also fine and not as heavy as I had read....but I can't put my finger on why it didn't have me hitting the serious "want" button.

Anyone else driven one, what were your thoughts?
 

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That's a shame. We build up expectations for cars like this so it's a bigger disappointment if they don't quite live up to it. In fairness, you seem to have found what many road testers complained of IIRC, or it more grand tourer than your sports-car expectations and that has clouded it a bit?
 

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That's a shame. We build up expectations for cars like this so it's a bigger disappointment if they don't quite live up to it. In fairness, you seem to have found what many road testers complained of IIRC, or it more grand tourer than your sports-car expectations and that has clouded it a bit?
I suspected it wouldn't be an out and sports car but I was expecting more of a balance and was hoping that given this was the second revision it would have been closer to my expectations. However it drove more like the standard Brera than it did say the prodrive version which does have some "fizz" and eggs you on.

Ah well, still a great experience :D
 

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I have been tempted in the past, mainly with the 3200, but i think i would be paying a fortune to keep it!

I love the name, and looks inside and out, so a bit surprised to read this, I have seen many interior colours that i thought didn't have that wow factor, but others that looked very sexy, which might make it feel that little more special.

maybe worth trying the GT Sport as it is an improvement, but enough of one? The Big fella can tell ya what its like to live with :)

I guess the engine is different from the QP?
 

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you'd prefer the gransport, honestly. With valved larinis ;)
I heard the Gransport was the best of the trio (3200/4200/Gransport) but since read that the Gransport was just a cosmetically modified version of the 4200, but perhaps that was the 2005 facelift with the modified nose? The Gransports look lovely (especially in the lighter blue or black) but they hold a massive/disproportionate premium at the moment and hence alot of Gransports are sitting on the shelf until the occasional fairly priced one comes onto the market and sells for a fair price.

I must admit I am vearing back towards a Tuscan or classic 911 right now.
 

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I heard the Gransport was the best of the trio (3200/4200/Gransport) but since read that the Gransport was just a cosmetically modified version of the 4200, but perhaps that was the 2005 facelift with the modified nose? The Gransports look lovely (especially in the lighter blue or black) but they hold a massive/disproportionate premium at the moment and hence alot of Gransports are sitting on the shelf until the occasional fairly priced one comes onto the market and sells for a fair price.

I must admit I am vearing back towards a Tuscan or classic 911 right now.
A friend had a 1989 911 Carrera 4, I was very impressed with it, handled better than most modern cars and there was not a single squeak or rattle.

Gransport has a more aggressive suspension setup and feels all the taughter for it. It feels like an S2000 with a roof and a proper engine...

You're right about the value, however the interior of the Gransport uses cheaper materials than on its predecessor i couldn't justify the premium, i nearly bought one myself but ended up with a Brera instead.
 

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A friend had a 1989 911 Carrera 4, I was very impressed with it, handled better than most modern cars and there was not a single squeak or rattle.

Gransport has a more aggressive suspension setup and feels all the taughter for it. It feels like an S2000 with a roof and a proper engine...

You're right about the value, however the interior of the Gransport uses cheaper materials than on its predecessor i couldn't justify the premium, i nearly bought one myself but ended up with a Brera instead.
I was particularly impressed with the 993 generation (still lacks the italian soul) but it does have a personality. Something I certainly couldn't level at it's older brother the 996 :(

The Gransport sounds far more my cup of tea, I just wish the prices would fall into line and I would be there to snap a blue one up! I can see any immediate purchase at current prices, landing me in a 6-7k loss very quickly.

Ah yes, the Gransport has some odd mesh finish from memory. Just want a new toy!

The GT did a fantastic job this week however, really good fun around the A roads going down to Dorset. Cuore Sportivo! Not sure I am ready for German ownership yet :cry:
 

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I have been tempted in the past, mainly with the 3200, but i think i would be paying a fortune to keep it!
Same here, although realistically not going to happen. That said looking at the prices a 4200 is not that much more to buy and would probably save money within a couple of years from lower servicing costs.

But then you have to do without the turbo engine and the rear lights.

All the best

Keith
 

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Same here, although realistically not going to happen. That said looking at the prices a 4200 is not that much more to buy and would probably save money within a couple of years from lower servicing costs.

But then you have to do without the turbo engine and the rear lights.

All the best

Keith
The lights are something that can be dealt with (albeit at a hefty price): before and after

The 4200 engine is the same, I believe, as the one that graced the first generation of QP V. I like the idea of a normally aspirated (not turboed) and timing-chained big engine...
 

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The lights are something that can be dealt with (albeit at a hefty price): before and after

The 4200 engine is the same, I believe, as the one that graced the first generation of QP V. I like the idea of a normally aspirated (not turboed) and timing-chained big engine...
Rear lights mod is interesting. Thank you.

We do have a Maserati 222SE, and one of the things that appeals about that is the contradiction between the slightly bonkers turbo engine, tarts boudoir interior and subtle exterior. In that way the turbo engine is a plus point, but with the 3200s 4V V8 engine the need to replace the cam chains with every other cam belt somewhat increases the costs (for those confused by the belts and chains, the belt drives one cam on each bank and a chain drives the other cam on each bank from the first cam).

Also heard things about the 3.2L V8 cranks suffering on manuals, aggravated by people pushing the clutch down when starting them.

All the best

Keith
 

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The lights are something that can be dealt with (albeit at a hefty price): before and after

The 4200 engine is the same, I believe, as the one that graced the first generation of QP V. I like the idea of a normally aspirated (not turboed) and timing-chained big engine...
4200 is the same engine as in the ferrari 360

The boomerang retrograde is thousands
 

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I am lucky enough to have a 916 twin spark 1996 model (every day car) and a 3200 GT Maserati 2000reg manual (toy). Both cars have different personality's. The GTV wants to be driven like a gokart round every bend (pollybush kit is brilliant) and it takes effort as a driver to keep it on the boil but you can have it on the limit on the run to work in the morning. The maz is a different animal it needs to be respected so you don't lose your licence but it loves to cover ground. I have driven this car all over and have had it to the Nurburgring and down into Italy. It is the perfect Gt that is happy tearing up twisty roads but you need to be going quite quick bring it alive. The 3200GT needs a bit of adjusting to and a test drive will disappoint but ownership will reward. Until you get used to the heavy brakes & clutch and the ultra light throttle (early fly by wire) it does not come alive. Drive it on and these start to make sense and steering feed back improves. The one thing about the 3200GT is you need to see do you fit in it as the seating position is quite laid back and you sit "on" the seat rather than in it.

As far as looking after it goes I have put 30k miles on the maz and about 40k miles on the GTV. The 3200GT is easier to work on and as cheap to maintain as the GTV. The belt kit was cheaper for the 3200GT. The cam chains don't need work under 100k and the engine is quite conventional other wise, wet sump, shim buckets for the valves, etc. Ok if you are using main dealers to do the work it will cost but I reckon the V6 GTV maintainence would cost as much as the 3200GT. If you do the work your self or a use a good specialist the costs are no worse than any sports car.

The clincher for me though is the looks of both the GTV & the 3200, the styling in both cases is different and still modern. The 3200 with the newer 4200 wheels is far prettier than both the 4200 and the grandsport (in my biased opinion :D). I garantee that if you have a 3200Gt in the garage every day you open the shed door it will bring a smile to your face. Photos don't do the proportions of this car justice. Oh and stainless back boxes makes every tunnel a window down event.
 

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Not the cambiocorsa geared version though.I tried a friends 4200 with this and it hardly flatters your driving.
 

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Well, I have in the past had a GTV TS and a GTV V6 from 1998 to 2010and have now owned a Maserati 4200 Cambio for about 2 years. All I can say is I would never go back unless economic circumstanses forced me. OK it is not a sports car - it is more grown up than that. You need to become familiar with it to get the very best from it but it really does reward you when you have spent some time with it. Ignore what they say about the cambio - I dislike conventional autos (and I own a 166 Sportronic for my sins!) but if you learn how to ease the throttle 'just right' as you flip the paddle up you can achieve a smooth and and satisfying quick change. My exhaust is standard as far as I know (bought the car secondhand) but sounds pretty good when you welly it and is civilised at modest rpm. It handles well in 'Sport' mode and has terrific grip. It can be a little frustrating to use around town as it is like making a race horse walk and also in slow traffic as you are forever swapping between 3rd and 4th gears. You need to be doing about 50 to use 6th. I have not seen better than 18 mpg on Shell Super V, so I keep it for the journeys I know are going to be fun. I have not driven a Brera but can only say that it surely cannot beat a 4200 in any way other than fuel consumption. The interior is very satisfying (mine has the optional leather head lining) and the rear seats are better than a GTV for leg room (don't even consider a Brera for that!). Owning it gives me great satisfaction (fortunately I have not had any really big bills yet) and I cannot think of anything else I would want to replace it with.
 

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Scrumpy, brilliant, absolutely wonderful. I do fancy a Maserati (love just saying it :lol:) one day.
I was looking at Alfa (Brera) Spider's this weekend at the NW meet. I love them but a 3200GT would be nice. Not buying one just yet but a future purchase maybe.

May I ask what they are like for servicing cost? For instance an alternative for me to a Maserati 3200GT would be a Ferrari Mondial 3.2 or at a push a 456. The Mondial is relatively cheap, engine in cambelt service circa £1000. The 456 is another story, you won't get much change out of £2k.

Some info but with the Maserati I am not sure about cambelts from this listing. Ferrari cambelt is every 30k or 3 years.
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I've only recently come across Amari servicing and it looks good :thumbs: I have noticed Mondial for £1300 but I think that covers the 3.4t which is an engine out job.
 
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