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Wasnt able to find the right thread to answer my questions so either its outrageously expensive to do OR its just easier to buy a Veloce to begin with :lol:

I have a 2004 2 litre 156 JTS Lusso, it was advertised as a Veloce 1 but i wont get into that. I want to start pricing up where to get the best parts for a fair price, to replace the suspension to Veloce spec. I think its 2cm lower but i have no idea what i need exactly - is it just the 4 shocks and springs to start with ??

I was also advised that the weak spots to replace then on the front end would be the 2 x upper wishbones, 2 x lower wishbones, 2 x anti roll bar drop links, and maybe 2 x steering track rod ends. Is that everything ??

And where would anyone advise me to buy the parts from please ?? Iv seen a few threads with all different places to go but would prefer an up to date answer if possible.

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We don't have the Lusso or veloce in Australia - it's just the JTS.. however, what you'd be looking for is the Eibach Pro Kit Springs (30mm lower & Much more controlled and comfortable) along with either Koni sport, Koni FSD or Bilstein B6 (or B8) dampers.. The B8's have a shorter stroke for lower springs, but I am unsure whether the valving is any different to the B6 - it seems most go for the B6. The improvement to both the handling and looks is huge.

You're correct, you may have to change upper, lower wishbones, possibly ARB but only if the bushes are tired.. and drop links.. however, only change them if necessary..

Retailers:

UK - Alfa Romeo Parts and Alfa Romeo Spares from EB Spares - Specialist Alfa Parts Dealers stock them..
Germany - Alfa Romeo Community: alfisti.net also stock them.

Both are very reliable and trustworthy.
 

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The problem bolt is the one running through the lower fork (alloy) that clamps to the strut. It corrodes and usually refuses to budge.

Check also the anti-roll bar as that needs the subframe dropping to replace.
 

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Thanks for the heads up Gazza, i will keep that in mind !

And many thanks 156Melb - you really dont have different models there ?? Like the Turismo (basic) Lusso (Luxury) and the Veloce is the daddy... sport ! lol

Really appreciate the time taken for the links, i cant thank you enough !! I will start pricing almost right away, got a bit of a squeak on my front right suspension so figured its worth a rebuild while its all off

Maybe it will be a Christmas present from me, for me :)
 

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Thanks for the heads up Gazza, i will keep that in mind !

And many thanks 156Melb - you really dont have different models there ?? Like the Turismo (basic) Lusso (Luxury) and the Veloce is the daddy... sport ! lol

Really appreciate the time taken for the links, i cant thank you enough !! I will start pricing almost right away, got a bit of a squeak on my front right suspension so figured its worth a rebuild while its all off

Maybe it will be a Christmas present from me, for me :)
It's a pleasure :)

All the JTS 156's, from 2003 were sold here with all options included..(pretty much) - there was a sports suspension pack as an option, but there was no designation for it.. such as 'Veloce' - So another way to put is, they only imported the Lusso to Australia. and they called it the 'JTS'.

As far as I understand, the factory sports kit comprised of lowered springs by Eibach (20mm) and standard dampers. I believe they are a Marone colour.

The Eibach Pro Kit (Bright Red) is a better choice (probably cheaper) and 30mm lowering.. I have those springs but still with factory standard dampers.. and whilst the car is a significant improvement from standard, the dampers are over worked. Based on a drive i had recently in a car with Bilstein, and other comments here and on other forums, the Bilstein's or Koni's are the way to go.

Alternatively, you could look at the Eiback Sport line (Black spring) but that's a 50mm drop, and you'd definitely need shorter dampers.... Very hard setup.

There are other spring options outside of Eibach, but I wouldn't bother with them. Eibach are a top quality manufacture, and their springs suit the Alfa like a greenie up a tree - they just work together perfectly.

In my case, I've chosen to fit the Bilstein B8's as they have a shorter stroke than the B6 and as such would suit a lower spring.. Some say it has the same valve rates, others say its stiffer.. I'll take the risk :) - As I've said before, you could equally plonk the B6's in a pro kit set up.. most do.

It's a good idea to replace the suspension components, bear in mind that the front ARB is a big job as they have to drop the front sub frame to access it.

Good luck :)
 

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Thanks mate !! I decided to get it all done while im there - as you said have to take so much off that its worth getting everything done when i can ! I think il start with the front end first and lower it next year now - have a wee squeak from my front right suspension atm so will be prioritising that

i wont be going too low, where i live il bottom out allll the time - used to have terrible trouble with speed bumps on a car that was too low in the past - Veloce spec is good enough for Alfa Romeo, then its good enough for me !!

All i need then is some Veloce side skirts, the big fin spoiler and maybe drop a new engine in, depends if mines burning oil badly or not :D
 

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Thanks mate !! I decided to get it all done while im there - as you said have to take so much off that its worth getting everything done when i can ! I think il start with the front end first and lower it next year now - have a wee squeak from my front right suspension atm so will be prioritising that

i wont be going too low, where i live il bottom out allll the time - used to have terrible trouble with speed bumps on a car that was too low in the past - Veloce spec is good enough for Alfa Romeo, then its good enough for me !!

All i need then is some Veloce side skirts, the big fin spoiler and maybe drop a new engine in, depends if mines burning oil badly or not :D
Eek... I just put a new motor in mine.. ouch.. $$ but worth it :) (in my case anyway lol - cam belt, and big end all at once :cry: )
 

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Ouch !! that is unfortunate but its always worth fixing it for Alfas i guess - they really are special cars :)

What colour combo have you got ??

i cant wait to finish all the work i want to do - might take me a little while but in the end il have my near 'perfect' Alfa !! Miss a powerful engine but with fuel prices today... big engines are so damn expensive. My only gripe with Alfa is that their FWD but there were some rumours that the next saloon edition from the 159 will be built on a Jaguar chassis and will be RWD :D But i havent checked on it, pure hearsay lol
 

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Ouch !! that is unfortunate but its always worth fixing it for Alfas i guess - they really are special cars :)

What colour combo have you got ??

i cant wait to finish all the work i want to do - might take me a little while but in the end il have my near 'perfect' Alfa !! Miss a powerful engine but with fuel prices today... big engines are so damn expensive. My only gripe with Alfa is that their FWD but there were some rumours that the next saloon edition from the 159 will be built on a Jaguar chassis and will be RWD :D But i havent checked on it, pure hearsay lol
Mine's Silver/Red... like you, given now I've spent a fair bit on the motor, i'm looking to doing more work to her to make her just perfect :)

Next job is to fit new dampers... then a strut brace and new ARB's.. after that, clean up some marks in the interier (new drivers door trim) and she'll be pretty much done...

I agree about the FWD, but you have to hand it to them, as far as FWD cars go, it has amazing handling... not RWD handling, but almost...
 

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Totally agree, the handling is amazing compared to most otger FWD cars - their front end setup is sublime !

Will be handy here when the snow comes, not being RWD :p Only thing i miss is being able to throw the back end around a bit :D
 
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