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Seen Alfa Aid have a red one on sale for 12k. Part cloth/leather, respray, new boot lid badge but wrong period ie its silver rather than gold like original. xxx CUP numberplate.

Nice looking car but really worth double a normal GTV V6??
 

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Is 'what somebody is prepared to pay' synominous with 'worth'? As long as someone, or for that matter, many, are prepared to pay those sums then that is good news for those of us with 'ordinary' V6s or TwinSparks. It will pull prices of those up too.
 

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This the one?

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classi...us=1501&make=ALFA ROMEO&sort=sponsored&page=1

It is very nice. I am interested in a gtv at the moment and you raise a very good question ie is one of these worth twice as much as standard gtv. If you want an investment then yes. If it is to be used and driven as it should be then maybe a standard car is a better bet. At least there is an option at a number of price points.
Re this car, in photo 23 is there something wrong with the detail at the pillar at the base of the rear side window or is it a trick of the light?
 

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So the short answer is “Yes” it is. If people with their rosy tinted nostalgia glasses are paying up to £50k for an old Mk1 Escort RS or Mexico then that is the market value. A Cup is exactly the same as a standard GTV, apart from a few cosmetic details so I’d rather buy two standard GTV’s!
 

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GTV60 re pic #23 its a trick of the light. Interesting also to see the whole underside has been stripped back and new rust proof seal applied along with refurbed everything.
 

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Prices for old cars is a bit bonkers. My first car was a 72 Mk4 Spitfire - no more advanced than a lawnmower and only slightly quicker. Got it when I was 17 in 1985, huge fun and great to learn some basic mechanical stuff. I see it's possible to spend over £12k for one now. Makes the cup look good value, with a bit of luck the value of other GTV's will grow.
 

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Unclejam couldn't agree more with you re Escort mk1 and buying normal Gtv V6.

I suspect the 916 series still has some years to go before prices truly escalate and are sought after by general classic car market rather than just Alfa enthusiasts
 

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You are probably right there - the main issue that will stop the GTV achieving bone fide classic status for the time being, is the number of them still on the road. There are quite a lot still driving around. Compare to a GTV6 for instance, I can’t remember the last time I actually saw one on the street and prices for those firmed up several years ago. I reckon a couple more years and a few more hundred scrapped and GTV prices will start to creeep up.
 

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As an investment yes, as In value for money, then that’s something for the seller or the buyer to decide.


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You are probably right there - the main issue that will stop the GTV achieving bone fide classic status for the time being, is the number of them still on the road. There are quite a lot still driving around.
I've just been looking up the GTV on 'How Many Left ?' and the last 2 yrs have been pretty grim for the GTV .For the ones that are left it is very near 50/50 between 'on road' and 'SORN' during winter,picking up a bit during the summer.
 

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It comes down to what someone is prepared to pay. Cups get rarer each year as does the 916 fleet in general, it doesn’t mean they have moved into classic car status just yet but scarcity will influence prices. A quick look at howmanyleft shows 145 v6 spiders against almost 400 v6 gtv’s. What is interesting to see is the GTv has declined by almost 50% in a decade whereas the spider is down by just over 33% and even went up last year.

I’ve had folk tell me that our v6 spider will be work over £20k in 10 years time, I’m not betting my pension on that but I assume as Yazz once said that the only way is up.
 

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The ‘classic’ car market is a very fickle thing that often defies logic. The Cup is seen as rare because it is a limited edition yet V6 Zoe Spiders are far rarer and although they sell quickly don’t command such high prices. Looking through the ads in a classic car mag recently I saw a specialist garage selling a 1.3 mk2 escort estate for twice what they had a Sunbeam Alpine convertible listed for. How can a boring family car be worth more than an absolute classic British sports car that was cool enough for James Bond to drive?
 

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Is 'what somebody is prepared to pay' synominous with 'worth'? As long as someone, or for that matter, many, are prepared to pay those sums then that is good news for those of us with 'ordinary' V6s or TwinSparks. It will pull prices of those up too.
I think youre right. Strange thing the classic car market. I've had porsche's for over 20 years. Started with a 944 lux which was neglected to say the least, taken as a trade in i managed to get it for £2200 sold as seen. Spent the next 18 months making it presentable and fixing stupid things like the sunroof cog which is a £5 piece but took all weekend to do. Many many other bits and entered it in a local porsche club concours and won much to my amazement. I sold it later that summer for £3750, thought i'd won the lottery. :rotate:

Kept going and managed to 'trade up' so to speak to 993's, last of the air cooled 911's and the absolute darling of the porsche press. As luck would have it I had a decent C2S just at the time the market went bonkers and made 7200. 996's, 997's (GT3 and turbo) and then just bought the best I could afford and stopped as it was going away from being enthusiast driven and just an investment tool.

People look at the tremendous profits being made and presume all makes will go the same, I think the cup cars will always have some extra attraction to them but its a few years off silly money. It does the marque no harm though and in years to come it will be a good investment.

I think the alfa aid looks a tidy car for that money personally.
 

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Considering even well used Cups go for good money it seems pretty good value, it looks spotless.

On another note it is strange how values of some ‘less interesting’ cars seem to rise over more desirable ones. Just recently I was surprised to see a dealer asking more for a clownshoe Z3 than the V8 Vantages they also had in stock.


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The Cup looks cheap compared to this Spider .

OK, its very low mileage but you would have to keep it that way, and not drive it, if you wanted it as an investment.
 

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As I have said somewhere before, I have a 1979 BMW R100s with an RS fairing all in very good original condition, apart from fairing, stainless exhaust, Seimens electronic ignition, and with genuine mileage, I know it is because I bought it new. Parts are usually very easy to get from within the UK and anything that isn't usually is from Germany. I'd get about £3 000 for it. There's a lot of them still around although the R90s will fetch much more for some reason. Rather like the GTV V6 and Cup versions. Yamaha FS1E mopeds, which when I trained and examined motorcyclists for the RAC/ACU then the BMF schemes, the learners couldn't wait to get rid of can now fetch up to £4 500, (in the purple paint, quoted as being rare, and there's a good reason why they are rare, it's an awful colour), that is fetch and not what is being asked. Where's the logic? Lost in the mists of nostalgia no doubt.
 

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I had a 944 s2 3lt ,and sold it a few months before i purchased a GTV spider{the idea was ,was to get rid and knock the classics second cars on the head and stick to bikes .but that didnt happen } .It was a tidy car apart from the usual rusty sills .For some reason though apart from the Turbo or later 968 they dont seen to of gone up much in value , .10k is probably max for an s2 .

Even though the 944 stems from the 70s its still a superior car to an RS mk1/2 escort .It was a much more upmarket car when new .A 10k s2 944 is a better buy comapred to a 50k mk1/2 rs escort
 
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