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Hi all - looking to get back in on the joys of Alfa ownership after too many years away, and have my heart set on a V6 GT. I've been keeping an eye on the ads for a good few months to get an idea of what's out there, and this ad on autotrader has been around a long old while - anyone with thoughts on comments on this? Price is attractive, mileage not bad, and MOT history looks ok. Why so low price?

Alfa Romeo GT 3.2 V6 24v 2dr
 

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It looks good from the pics apart from the dark tints.. but it's been for sale for a few weeks now and it may not as with most cars look as tidy in real life as it does in the pics.

You would have a cambelt change to do straight away plus a service and no doubt other things will crop up that need doing as well such as plugs, brakes etc. So you might as well presume that the asking price is nearer £4500-5000, which is still good value considering you have a 3.2gt with a fresh cambelt and water pump, plus serviced.

It's also only done 81k which is still quite low for the year even on a v6 gt. Me personally though I would lean towards DNG's which is for sale on here which has had everything already done to it, so much less of a risk. Weather you'll actually get him to hand over keys or not though is another matter as it's been for sale then not for sale about 37 times at last count:biglaugh:
 

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Phone Adrian at Alfaaid and ask him - if it has been serviced there regularly, he will have a view.

Leather is ripped, and will cost a few bob to fix, and (on a time basis) the cambelt could be overdue. So you're looking at £1000 of expenditure as soon as you buy it. Would I prefer a £4500 car, or a £3500 + 1000 car where I knew absolutely what had been done - the latter.

At a guess it will need an oilcooler fix as well, the pipes will be rotten by now. (£200 + fitting).

Prices on these are low because the market is small. Big engined = unfashionable these days. They're not visually special like a GTA, so there is no scarcity value. I got my V6 for £900 - the engine was blown to bits and mostly in the boot. They are far cheaper to operate than a GTA because of the body part commonality with the "cooking" cars in the range.
 

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Thanks for the replies, I'm waiting for the seller to get in touch. Interesting about DNG's car, I had read that thread not long ago but didn't put two and two together.
 

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As RXE says. Give Alfaaid (Adrian/Lee) a call and ask them about the car. They are very helpful.
 

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I will hand over the keys I promise :biglaugh:.

It's only for sale on here at present alfski and moogface, I've just updated the thread in the GT/147/156 section. It has a few little niggles I would like to get sorted, a few bodywork bits, a new heated seat switch and the reverse parking sensors and then it is 100% ready to go for £5995 but I am willing to listen to sensible offers pre these jobs being sorted. The big plus of it is it has some major work done on the engine last year so you know there will be no issues there, new cambelt/waterpump and clutch were done at the same time as well as a Scorpion cat back and Autolusso pipes and induction.

My concern with buying a sub £4k GT 3.2 would be it would have the same head gasket issues as mine had and end up costing you well over a couple of grand to sort. I learnt the hard way as have a few others on this forum of late so go into buying a cheaper car with your eyes wide open as such

http://www.alfaowner.com/Forum/alfa-147-156-andamp-gt/913090-for-sale-alfa-romeo-gt-3-2-v6-q2-3.html
 

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So, I've found the following on eBay and ended up winning for a seemingly low £3.5k! Apparently no obligation to buy and a day to do whatever checks I deem necessary. It feels almost too good to be true... Any thoughts? I'd need to check to see if the cambelt has been done. Anyone know of a Reading based specialist who I could arrange a check with?


http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/05-ALFA-ROM...ICK-LOW-MILES-LOVELY-/272239183811?nav=SEARCH
 

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Cambelt is the obvious question, but assuming it is straight and works, it seems cheap. But remember, these are cheap - mine is on 43K, and I've always assumed it is worth about £4K - and that is with a rebuilt engine 3 years ago. Make sure the engine runs perfectly at idle. Be afraid of any misfires at all - they might be a simple airleak, but they could well be head gaskets etc.

Call Alfa aid in Maidenhead - grabbing one of their guys to look at it for 2 hours of whatever their hourly rate is would be worth it.
 

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You will be surprised at how much a decent example GT 3.2 with 43k on the clock is worth now rxe, definitely much more than £4k. They are not a cheap car to buy right now in general, unless a dog

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classif...rget=usedcars&searchcontext=default&logcode=p

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classif...rch-target=usedcars&make=alfa_romeo&logcode=p

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classif...rch-target=usedcars&make=alfa_romeo&logcode=p

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classif...rch-target=usedcars&make=alfa_romeo&logcode=p

very rarely do good ones they dip under £5000 even with higher miles
 

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Hmm, I've been struggling to find any decent ones within my budget. I've not got in touch dng about yours as I'm a bit too far under your asking price. Not sure if this one I've effectively bought is a steal, or a money pit! Going to call into alfa aid on tues as suggested for a proper once over!
 

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As mentioned by rxe the head gaskets would be the main concern. Being red the bodywork may also be fading in places. I think whatever price you get one for you have to be prepared to spend money on it. This one could need a cambelt and water pump, tyres and exhaust for example which you would be looking at approaching 1500 quid straight away and at 5000 you wouldn't be far off the price of mine.....but imagine if it doesn't need anything spending on it then it could be steal of the year!! I sure hope so ;)
 

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The ad in my original post was sold the day before I spoke to the owner - perhaps dodged a bullet...

The red model in ebay from my earlier post, I test drive today. It broke down on the way to Italia Speed in Newbury for an inspection! Seems to be the alternator, which accordingly to Italia Speed is about £650... Low battery warning light was on when I started, then error messages on ABS, VDC, and then everything else once I hit the motorway. The seller said they would replace it and call me back, but I suspect they are underestimating the cost! I'll have to see what they get done and where if I am to go ahead.

BUT! £3.5k, and actually a lot of history, most recently from Autolusso, Quaife differential fitted (2011). I spoke to Autolusso and they had a vague recollection of the car (was last seen in March) and said it was solid and at £3.5k is an absolute steal. The previous owner barely used it, hence the low recent mileage. He'd spent over a grand in March at Autolusso getting it back on the road (4 tyres, some suspension work) but since has seemingly sold via a we-sell-any-car type place, hence me getting the chance to buy for £3.5k from this 'dealer'. Why the last owner sold at a seemingly knock-down price though is a concern...

So my plan is this - assuming the seller fixes the alternator (assuming also it is the alternator that was wrong), I'll take it back to Italia Speed (or Alfa Aid - they couldn't do today) and if the check throws nothing up, then it seems a bargain.

Although I can't help but think that fate has given me a chance to walk away, and maybe I should be listening... My only other potential is a blue example in Bristol for £4.8k with 10k more miles, but less questions (also, it has a wizard exhaust and sounds amazing). Both would need a cambelt within the next 12months.

Any thoughts? How much assurance does an hour check with Alfa Aid or Italia Speed actually give?
 

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Get a compression test done on it at whatever specialist you go to..my only real major 3.2 specific concerns are headgaskets/top end..all tbe other stuff is possible on any GT variant. Clutch ,wishbones ,etc etc. The alternator going now is a good thing as it will be sorted before sale. 3.5 k is a steal if the top end is ok. Even if it costs you another 2k to fettle in the first year you are still "ahead of the game"

Good luck!
 

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Done deal! I'm now the proud owner of a red V6 GT! The alternator has been replaced and all was sound on the test drive, everything felt solid and as it should, and after a good poke around at Italia Speed in Newbury (who were great by the way, very friendly and knowledgeable), the only reported problems are a broken handbrake cable (which was obvious anyway), slightly worn engine mount bush which is not a big job, and worn front discs and pads.

Scrutinising the paperwork a bit more, the car had an exhaust valve failure in 2012 and had a partial engine rebuild as a result, including the head gasket, at Autolusso (£1700!). So with that work done, the Quaife LSD fitted, and over £1k of work for suspension arms, wishbones, and 4 new tyres as recently as March, I think I may have nabbed a bargain (don't tempt fate...!). The cambelt is not due for another year either so no immediate expense there.

The red has faded only a bit, so the rear bumper could do with a respray to tint it back towards the rest of the bodywork colour, but it's not too dramatic.

Time will tell if there are any nasty surprises, but hopefully this will be the start of a beautiful relationship :jester:
 

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Well done..!

Sounds like you have found one in very good nick. The top end rebuild is excellent news as is the Quaife. At that price you have some cash spare for some koni's or bilsteins to get the stance and handling spot on..!
 
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